• OS/2

    From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to All on Sunday, June 08, 2025 12:40:55
    I am thinking about buying an OS/2 licence since Windows 10 will not be officially supported.

    Do internet old school like a generation ago.


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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to UTOPIAN GALT on Monday, June 09, 2025 09:24:33
    Quoting Utopian Galt to All <=-

    I am thinking about buying an OS/2 licence since Windows 10 will not
    be officially supported.
    Do internet old school like a generation ago.

    I run OS/2 on an older IBM P90. I tried adding a network card and the
    TCP/IP stack to get it on a network so I could try what you mentioned.

    What a mistake that was. Screwed up the system pretty bad. Had issues
    even getting it to boot after that. Had to do a re-install from Red
    Spine disk to get it working again.

    Add to that that no one seems to be able to help when there are issues,
    and I gave up. The system works fine, but I can't seem to get it up and
    running on the network in order to use the browser.

    I still use OS/2, just not as my main OS. I am using Windows 10, but
    stopped updating before that shitty 'Co-Pilot' started forcing it's way
    into everything.

    Guess there's always Linux.

    Have a wonderful day UG!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Utopian Galt on Monday, June 09, 2025 08:03:20
    Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

    I am thinking about buying an OS/2 licence since Windows 10 will not be officially supported.

    If your goal is to run an unsupported OS when Windows 10 goes EOL, then
    save your money and just keep running Windows 10. :)



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Cougar428 on Monday, June 09, 2025 08:03:20
    Cougar428 wrote to UTOPIAN GALT <=-

    I run OS/2 on an older IBM P90. I tried adding a network card and the
    TCP/IP stack to get it on a network so I could try what you mentioned.

    What a mistake that was. Screwed up the system pretty bad. Had issues
    even getting it to boot after that. Had to do a re-install from Red
    Spine disk to get it working again.


    Oh, I hated networking. I ran OS/2 Warp in a Novell environment, so I
    had a couple of frame types and clients running already. For the life
    of me, I couldn't get TCP/IP to play nice with the network stack, so I
    ended up putting in a second network card for TCP/IP.

    NT 3.51 showed up in our office a while later, and it ended up being my
    OS for a couple of years afterwards.


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Utopian Galt on Monday, June 09, 2025 10:44:52
    Re: OS/2
    By: Utopian Galt to All on Sun Jun 08 2025 12:40 pm

    I am thinking about buying an OS/2 licence since Windows 10 will not be officially supported.

    Do internet old school like a generation ago.

    OS/2 isn't supported anymore either, and is much older than Windows 10. If your concern is running an OS that's still supported, I'm not sure what your goal would be by switching to OS/2, which is an even older OS..

    OS/2 has since switched hands a couple times, and is currently being maintained, but it has been renamed to ArcaOS. If you want a supported OS/2, you might consider buying an ArcaOS license.

    https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Cougar428 on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 18:01:44
    BY: Cougar428 (21:2/156)

    |11C|09> |10 I still use OS/2, just not as my main OS. I am using Windows 10, but|07
    |11C|09> |10 stopped updating before that shitty 'Co-Pilot' started forcing it's way|07
    |11C|09> |10 into everything.|07
    Co-Pilot is the reason why I am stopping my subscription to Microsoft Office. Will use Libre Office.


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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Nightfox on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 18:02:16
    BY: Nightfox (21:1/137)

    |11N|09> |10OS/2 isn't supported anymore either, and is much older than Windows 10. |07
    |11N|09> |10If your concern is running an OS that's still supported, I'm not sure|07
    |11N|09> |10what your goal would be by switching to OS/2, which is an even older|07
    |11N|09> |10OS..|07
    Its for DOS support. I could mess around with older software :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Utopian Galt on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 07:08:40
    Utopian Galt wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Its for DOS support. I could mess around with older software :)

    It truly was a better DOS than DOS. It multitasked DOS windows smoothly,
    lots of free memory, and you could even create a virtual DOS environment
    with "real" DOS 6.22.

    Back in the 90s, I ran the BBS on DOS, ran OS/2 on my desktop, and used LANTastic networking. They didn't have an OS/2 client, so I created a
    DOS VDM with MS-DOS and the drivers, and had a DOS window that could
    talk to the BBS.

    It was pretty wild, in 1992 being able to redirect the screen/keyboard,
    share printers and share drives on DOS boxes.

    A little later I moved my desktop and the BBS to a single OS/2 desktop.
    I didn't even notice that the BBS was running in the background.



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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 10:35:26
    Re: Re: OS/2
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Utopian Galt on Wed Jun 11 2025 07:08 am

    Its for DOS support. I could mess around with older software :)

    It truly was a better DOS than DOS. It multitasked DOS windows smoothly, lots of free memory, and you could even create a virtual DOS environment with "real" DOS 6.22.

    As in MS-DOS 6.22? As OS/2 was an IBM product, I thought it would be more equivalent to IBM's PC-DOS?

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  • From mary4@21:2/150 to Cougar428 on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 11:07:55
    Guess there's always Linux.
    OS/2 AND LINUX GANG!!!!

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  • From mary4@21:2/150 to Utopian Galt on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 11:08:57
    Co-Pilot is the reason why I am stopping my subscription to Microsoft Office. Will use Libre Office.
    BASED!!!

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  • From j0hnny a1pha@21:4/158 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, June 12, 2025 02:35:09
    On 11 Jun 2025, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    Utopian Galt wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Its for DOS support. I could mess around with older software :)

    It truly was a better DOS than DOS. It multitasked DOS windows smoothly, lots of free memory, and you could even create a virtual DOS environment with "real" DOS 6.22.

    Back in the 90s, I ran the BBS on DOS, ran OS/2 on my desktop, and used LANTastic networking. They didn't have an OS/2 client, so I created a
    DOS VDM with MS-DOS and the drivers, and had a DOS window that could
    talk to the BBS.

    Yeah, it was pretty freaking cool at the time. There are even things about ArcaOS desktop that work pretty well. It ran the sh$t out of DOS, and was 32-Bit!

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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to MARY4 on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 22:55:43
    Quoting Mary4 to Cougar428 <=-

    Guess there's always Linux.
    OS/2 AND LINUX GANG!!!!

    I use Lubuntu on an older Dell laptop and it works great! No networking
    issues on Linux like I had on OS/2.

    Have a wonderful day!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Thursday, June 12, 2025 07:50:59
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    It truly was a better DOS than DOS. It multitasked DOS windows smoothly, lots of free memory, and you could even create a virtual DOS environment with "real" DOS 6.22.

    As in MS-DOS 6.22? As OS/2 was an IBM product, I thought it would be
    more equivalent to IBM's PC-DOS?

    With OS/2, you could create virtual DOS machines, akin to a virtual
    machine nowadays. They would create a virtual machine, booting from a
    DOS image, and inside that window you'd be running DOS natively, with
    the ability to have separate config.sys and autoexec.bat files. from a disk image created from a DOS boot disk, and have an environment that was
    100% DOS. The "Better DOS than DOS", if you will.

    You could boot any DOS that way, if you needed a specific brand or
    version of DOS. The DOS prompt in OS/2 was pretty good, I gotta say -
    the only time I preferred it was when I had an application that needed
    DOS-only drivers.

    Damn, now I want to run OS/2 again...



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to All on Thursday, June 12, 2025 07:50:59
    My board used to have a message base just for tech flame posts. We had
    lots of OS/2 versus Amiga arguments on the board, sort of like watching
    two kids fighting it out to see who's the baddest ass in the Physics
    club.

    - Area: nirvana.tech.flame
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Msg#: 95
    Date: 20 Jul 94 12:31:00
    From: SAM UZI
    To: JOHN SMITH
    Subj: OS from heaven -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The duffus John Smith said to the geek Sam Uzi <=-

    it is the ONLY true 32-bit multi-threaded pre-emptive multi-tasking
    OS around.

    ...except for every single OS around that was written for non-Intel
    CPUs.
    All the neat shit that people claim for the latest hottest Intel
    -- the stuff in your quote there -- is stuff that has always
    been pretty much standard in the Motorola and Risc worlds.

    sure, whatever... but OS/2 is THE BEST Operating System in the world,
    can run circles around anything else, and it looks nicer, and will cook
    your breakfast for you, and make your coffee, and has 3D-bordered
    icons, and is nifty, and looks cool, and is True-Blue, and can run DOS
    better than DOS, and will take out the garbage, and will get you chicks,
    and has got a 438 Hemi duo-blaster twin quad super injection turbo
    ramjet ultra thingy that makes it go real fast, and it can juggle, and
    it knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake, and
    it will end world hunger, and it has fine Corinthian leather, and it
    never makes you say you're sorry, and it always uses a condom, and it
    likes the kinds of pizza and ice cream that you like, and it plays
    bitchin' guitar, and it manages files like there's no tomorrow, and its object-oriented multi-media neural-net shipping next quarter, and it is bullit-proof like 20 layers of #4 Kevlar body armor, and it is so multi-threaded that it weaves a heavy wool blanket while its idleing,
    and my momma told me when I was just a lad that it was the best, and it
    has a heavy manual, and it uses less characters in its name than other
    OS's, and its recomended by four out of five dentists, and it can kick Superman's ass, and it's meaner than the junkyard dog, and its the
    choice of the next generation, and it will let you so many things at the
    same time that your head will spin, and it can dance, and ... oh never
    mind... it sucks...




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  • From phigan@21:3/193 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, June 12, 2025 14:56:24
    It truly was a better DOS than
    DOS. It multitasked DOS windows
    smoothly,
    lots of free memory, and you could

    The only thing that sucked was when you tried to run something that checked for emm386 rather than just checking if it had more than 640k available :(.



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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, June 12, 2025 08:39:15
    Re: Re: OS/2
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Jun 12 2025 07:50 am

    With OS/2, you could create virtual DOS machines, akin to a virtual machine nowadays. They would create a virtual machine, booting from a DOS image, and inside that window you'd be running DOS natively, with the ability to have separate config.sys and autoexec.bat files. from a disk image created from a DOS boot disk, and have an environment that was 100% DOS. The "Better DOS than DOS", if you will.

    You could boot any DOS that way, if you needed a specific brand or version of DOS. The DOS prompt in OS/2 was pretty good, I gotta say - the only time I preferred it was when I had an application that needed DOS-only drivers.

    Ah, that's cool. I used OS/2 a bit but didn't play with the DOS VM stuff that in-depth. I did try running my original DOS BBS (using RemoteAccess) in OS/2. I had downloaded Ray Gwynn's serial telnet driver for OS/2 and was able to telnet to my RemoteAccess BBS. I was only experimenting with that though and still only had that BBS set up for dialup.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, June 12, 2025 08:56:46
    Re: OS/2
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Thu Jun 12 2025 07:50 am

    My board used to have a message base just for tech flame posts. We had lots of OS/2 versus Amiga arguments on the board, sort of like watching two kids fighting it out to see who's the baddest ass in the Physics club.

    - Area: nirvana.tech.flame ---------------------------------------------------
    Msg#: 95
    Date: 20 Jul 94 12:31:00
    From: SAM UZI
    To: JOHN SMITH
    Subj: OS from heaven ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The duffus John Smith said to the geek Sam Uzi <=-

    it is the ONLY true 32-bit multi-threaded pre-emptive multi-tasking
    OS around.

    ...except for every single OS around that was written for non-Intel CPUs.
    All the neat shit that people claim for the latest hottest Intel
    -- the stuff in your quote there -- is stuff that has always
    been pretty much standard in the Motorola and Risc worlds.

    sure, whatever... but OS/2 is THE BEST Operating System in the world,
    can run circles around anything else, and it looks nicer, and will cook
    your breakfast for you, and make your coffee, and has 3D-bordered
    icons, and is nifty, and looks cool, and is True-Blue, and can run DOS better than DOS, and will take out the garbage, and will get you chicks,
    and has got a 438 Hemi duo-blaster twin quad super injection turbo
    ...


    There have been arguments as long as there have been online forums of some sort.. :)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Thursday, June 12, 2025 16:23:37
    Re: Re: OS/2
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jun 12 2025 08:39 am

    Ah, that's cool. I used OS/2 a bit but didn't play with the DOS VM stuff that in-depth. I did try running my original DOS BBS (using RemoteAccess) i OS/2. I had downloaded Ray Gwynn's serial telnet driver for OS/2 and was abl to telnet to my RemoteAccess BBS. I was only experimenting with that though and still only had that BBS set up for dialup.

    I managed Novell networks back then, and all of the tools were DOS-based Curses apps. I could open a ton of DOS windows and not worry about crashing the machine.

    We had a modem multiplexer, one of my most shamless uses of technology was running Procomm Plus in 4 different windows and calling 4 BBSes simultaneously.
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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to j0hnny a1pha on Sunday, June 15, 2025 10:23:31
    Yeah, it was pretty freaking cool at the time. There are even things
    about ArcaOS desktop that work pretty well. It ran the sh$t out of DOS, and was 32-Bit!

    I installed once ArcaOS on a VM, curious about OS/2 experience which I never had in the past. But it was slacky and a bit clunky to me. I could not find myself in that environment. I believe if a lot of time was dedicated to the setup, I'd most likely experience it different, I feel that.. but I lacked that dedication and abandoned experimenting with it, eventually.

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Hollowone on Sunday, June 15, 2025 16:07:50
    I installed once ArcaOS on a VM, curious about OS/2 experience which I neve had in the past. But it was slacky and a bit clunky to me. I could not find myself in that environment. I believe if a lot of time was dedicated to the

    Compared to what we have today, yes, it is a bit clunky, but in the 90sit was 20 years a head of it's time.

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to Exodus on Monday, June 16, 2025 10:20:43

    Compared to what we have today, yes, it is a bit clunky, but in the
    90sit was 20 years a head of it's time.


    You mean working like up to 2010 expectations? Bold assumption considering we had quite matured up OSX and Windows 7 back then :)

    I'm pretty sure it could kick some Win95 ass maybe if UI was polished and more mainstream software available... that could make it 3 years ahead.

    Not criticizing ;) just being precise and on point of being ahead.. I'd say Amiga OS was 20 years ahead of Windows too but I'd be equally romanticizing my own naiveness ;)

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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to HOLLOWONE on Tuesday, June 17, 2025 09:39:00
    Compared to what we have today, yes, it is a bit clunky, but in the 90sit was 20 years a head of it's time.

    You mean working like up to 2010 expectations? Bold assumption considering we had quite matured up OSX and Windows 7 back then :)

    In the US, "# of years ahead of its time" is usually a turn-of-phrase and
    not meant literally.

    That said, at the time OS/2 came out, it probably did seem futuristic, much like the first black-and-white MACs did. ;)


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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, June 17, 2025 11:16:40
    In the US, "# of years ahead of its time" is usually a turn-of-phrase and not meant literally.

    We say light years ahead ;) to keep it even more abstract.

    and to call something retarded/backward we used to say "100 years behind Blacks in Africa"

    Second, obviously less politically correct but we culturally never cared to keep our wording balanced.

    -h1

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Dumas Walker on Thursday, June 19, 2025 07:21:50
    Dumas Walker wrote to HOLLOWONE <=-

    That said, at the time OS/2 came out, it probably did seem futuristic, much like the first black-and-white MACs did. ;)

    I remember solid multitasking on OS/2 1.2 when Windows 3.0 was crashing constantly. Connecting to a PBX at work over a modem while connected via
    Twinax to an AS/400 and serving files over MS Lan Manager over token
    ring on a 386/25 - Windows was essentially just a single-tasking window
    manager at that point.

    Presentation Manager on OS/2 2.0 was pretty wild, too - a
    context-based, object-oriented UI was ahead of the pack at the time.



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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, June 19, 2025 09:09:46
    Re: Re: OS/2
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu Jun 19 2025 07:21 am

    Presentation Manager on OS/2 2.0 was pretty wild, too - a context-based, object-oriented UI was ahead of the pack at the time.

    Sometimes I wonder where we'd be today if OS/2 had become the dominant OS for PCs. Or maybe even BeOS, though they initially started with their own PowerPC-based computers, and by the time they ported BeOS to x86, it was probably too late. I thought BeOS had some crazy multi-tasking though, and I liked its UI - it was simple and looked like a piece of art.

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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to Nightfox on Friday, June 20, 2025 11:49:49
    Sometimes I wonder where we'd be today if OS/2 had become the dominant OS PCs. Or maybe even BeOS, though they initially started with their own PowerPC-based computers, and by the time they ported BeOS to x86, it was probably too late. I thought BeOS had some crazy multi-tasking though, an liked its UI - it was simple and looked like a piece of art.

    I wonder these things too. I think that it would have accelerated the world of computing a couple of years at least, and we wouldn't be hamstrung by Microsoft as much as we are. If BeOS won out (which was never really gonna happen), then the world would have been a nicer place (probably), if Big Blue won out then goodness only knows how it would have looked. Probably more reliable, but they were EviLCorp. Never relly knew which was the lesser of the two evils, MS or IBM. I want to say IBM was the lesser, but tbh I will probably never know.

    Cheers,Al


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Friday, June 20, 2025 07:28:59
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Sometimes I wonder where we'd be today if OS/2 had become the dominant
    OS for PCs. Or maybe even BeOS, though they initially started with
    their own PowerPC-based computers, and by the time they ported BeOS to x86, it was probably too late. I thought BeOS had some crazy multi-tasking though, and I liked its UI - it was simple and looked
    like a piece of art.


    I liked both OSes, I think Macromedia tried to port some of their apps
    to Be, the tech support guys had a BeBox to play with.

    The problem with OS/2 was that it had a full services arm behind it. I
    often wondered if it wasn't as easy to use/install because IBM was
    expecting to have the customer to have a service contract with IBM.

    When I used OS/2 at work the first time, we had S/38 midrange
    computers, a couple of AS/400s, all PS/2 desktops and IBM token ring
    networking. I could call in a tech to assist if we ran into OS/2
    issues.

    I don't think it was until the internet came out that people really
    cared about multi-tasking; before that, Windows was really more of a UI
    for most people to run one GUI app at a time.





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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, June 20, 2025 09:01:46
    Re: Re: OS/2
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Jun 20 2025 07:28 am

    The problem with OS/2 was that it had a full services arm behind it. I often wondered if it wasn't as easy to use/install because IBM was expecting to have the customer to have a service contract with IBM.

    Did they? I remember buying a boxed copy of OS/2 at my local Egghead Software and installing it and using it on my PC without a problem. I didn't need to have a service contract with IBM.

    I don't think it was until the internet came out that people really cared about multi-tasking; before that, Windows was really more of a UI for most people to run one GUI app at a time.

    Still, there could be software running in the background, and without good multi-tasking, the system could be unstable.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Nightfox on Friday, June 20, 2025 11:57:02
    Did they? I remember buying a boxed copy of OS/2 at my local Egghead Software and installing it and using it on my PC without a problem. I didn't need to have a service contract with IBM.

    I don't think it was until the internet came out that people really ca

    about multi-tasking; before that, Windows was really more of a UI for

    people to run one GUI app at a time.

    I bought OS/2 Warp to run my Wildcat v4 bbs on. It ran great. My problem was when I tried to upgrade to OS/2 v4, my mouse wouldn't work. I called IBM and they wanted to charge me to get it working. I dropped OS/2 and went to Desqview. Ran that until the internet took over. BTW, I still have both
    OS/2 v3 and v4 in there original boxes. I may try to resurrect them.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to ogg on Friday, June 20, 2025 11:44:02
    Re: OS/2
    By: ogg to Nightfox on Fri Jun 20 2025 11:57 am

    I bought OS/2 Warp to run my Wildcat v4 bbs on. It ran great. My problem was when I tried to upgrade to OS/2 v4, my mouse wouldn't work. I called IBM and they wanted to charge me to get it working. I dropped OS/2 and went to Desqview.

    Weird that they wanted to charge you for that.. IBM may have shot themselves in the foot charging for that kind of thing. Also, if someone wanted to develop software for OS/2, I heard IBM also made the developer kit fairly expensive, which probably didn't help make it popular..

    Nightfox
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Saturday, June 21, 2025 08:58:39
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Re: Re: OS/2
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Jun 20 2025 07:28 am

    The problem with OS/2 was that it had a full services arm behind it. I often wondered if it wasn't as easy to use/install because IBM was expecting to have the customer to have a service contract with IBM.

    Did they? I remember buying a boxed copy of OS/2 at my local Egghead Software and installing it and using it on my PC without a problem. I didn't need to have a service contract with IBM.

    Not that you'd need the contract, but if you were a business customer
    and ran into an issue, you'd have a couple of guys in dark suits and
    white shirts offering to help. In a way, I wonder if that hampered the
    user-friendly aspects of OS/2, as they didn't know how to sell to
    home/personal users back then.

    Not that I minded, the guys in dark suits usually ended up taking us to
    lunch at a much nicer place than I could have afforded back then.






    I don't think it was until the internet came out that people really cared about multi-tasking; before that, Windows was really more of a UI for most people to run one GUI app at a time.

    Still, there could be software running in the background, and without
    good multi-tasking, the system could be unstable.

    Nightfox
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to ogg on Saturday, June 21, 2025 08:58:39
    ogg wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I bought OS/2 Warp to run my Wildcat v4 bbs on. It ran great. My
    problem was when I tried to upgrade to OS/2 v4, my mouse wouldn't work.
    I called IBM and they wanted to charge me to get it working. I
    dropped OS/2 and went to Desqview.

    I could never get TCP/IP, NETBIOS and IPX working on Warp, much to my
    chagrin, being the network guy and all. Not soon after, Windows 3.11
    came around with an IP stack, and it was good enough - plus they had
    all the apps.

    But, OS/2 had its moment. Loved the multitasking, and running OS/2 BBS
    binaries (Maximus, Squish and BinkleyTerm) was amazing. They ran in a
    minimized window on my OS/2 desktop and I barely noticed they were
    running.




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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, June 21, 2025 13:21:08
    But, OS/2 had its moment. Loved the multitasking, and running OS/2 BBS
    binaries (Maximus, Squish and BinkleyTerm) was amazing. They ran in a
    minimized window on my OS/2 desktop and I barely noticed they were
    running.

    It was the multitasking that attracted me to it. Once I was using dos and Desqview, I never looked back.

    |11ogg
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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Ogg on Saturday, June 21, 2025 15:32:24

    It was the multitasking that attracted me to it. Once I was using dos and Desqview, I never looked back.

    I don't see how .... the BBS always bled thru DESQview. Couldn't really do what I needed in another window with it, which led me to OS/2 2.1, the OS/2 v3 WARP which allowed me to be telnetable back in 1995.

    ... Ever meet a Sysop who would admit the problem was his?

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Exodus on Saturday, June 21, 2025 15:22:25
    I don't see how .... the BBS always bled thru DESQview. Couldn't really do what I needed in another window with it, which led me to OS/2 2.1,
    the OS/2 v3 WARP which allowed me to be telnetable back in 1995.

    I ran my bbs on OS/2 v3 without an issue. The problem came in with OS/2 v4. That's when I move backed to DOS and DESQ/view.

    |11ogg
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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Ogg on Saturday, June 21, 2025 18:36:02
    I ran my bbs on OS/2 v3 without an issue. The problem came in with OS/2 v4 That's when I move backed to DOS and DESQ/view.

    I ran on Warp V3 Connect for years. When I moved into my 1st apartment, I saw on egghead.com they have OS/2 Warp v4.0 for $1.88 .... it was an obvious mistype on te webpage, but they sent it. Best deal I ever got. Warp v4 was a different breed. It never did want to install correctly.

    ... He's not dead, Jim. He's just considering moving to Seattle.

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Exodus on Saturday, June 21, 2025 18:11:14
    I ran on Warp V3 Connect for years. When I moved into my 1st apartment,
    I saw on egghead.com they have OS/2 Warp v4.0 for $1.88 .... it was an obvious mistype on te webpage, but they sent it. Best deal I ever got. Warp v4 was a different breed. It never did want to install correctly.

    So maybe it wasn't me after all! For 30 years, I thought it was me and my mouse that created my problems. That makes me rethink my decision to try and get it back up and running. I've got a full box set of v3 and v4 still on my book shelf. What to do....

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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to Exodus on Sunday, June 22, 2025 11:15:51
    It was the multitasking that attracted me to it. Once I was using dos Desqview, I never looked back.

    I don't see how .... the BBS always bled thru DESQview. Couldn't really d what I needed in another window with it, which led me to OS/2 2.1, the OS/ WARP which allowed me to be telnetable back in 1995.

    When you say 'bled thru' do you mean the video bled through?

    If yes, then that sounds like the virtual terminal settings in advanced settings, you could switch this off easily. I experienced the same issue the other day, I just fiddled with the options and all went well after that. DesqView is really good for my needs in 2025. I have multi-tasking pretty much for whatever I want, runs fast and I don't have any bugs that I notice in protected mode.

    -Al


    hyjinx // Alistair Ross
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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to ogg on Sunday, June 22, 2025 11:17:45
    back up and running. I've got a full box set of v3 and v4 still on my boo shelf. What to do....

    If you're installing on real hardware it might be fun for a laugh, but AFAIR, install time was a real drag. It would probably be interesting to install in 86box or whatever its called and seeing how well it performs there.


    hyjinx // Alistair Ross
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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Hyjinx on Saturday, June 21, 2025 22:18:02
    When you say 'bled thru' do you mean the video bled through?

    If yes, then that sounds like the virtual terminal settings in advanced

    Nahh, sometimes it would just crash the program from the background to the foreground nd crash both windows ... just wasn't stable enough to run the BBS from and do something else.

    ... Truth is shorter than fiction. -Irving Cohen

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