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  • Re: Japanese Computers

    From lodger@21:1/168 to Newtype Len on Monday, April 28, 2025 13:15:22
    Newtype Len wrote to All:

    From what I do know: there isn't a lot of ownership or appreciation for Amiga/C64 et all in Japan, so it's not like a one-sided relationship with retro computing.


    I guess it's all about what you have grown up with and what was popular in
    your corner of the world. I only knew about the MSX1 type systems, even
    back in the day. I liked the Sony HitBit series but it wasn't until a few
    years ago that I've actually came to posess one.

    Aside from that, all I know about other japanese systems I know thanks to online museums and the likes. What is amazing is that one of those 8 bit systems from the mid-80s was able to "Genlock" video and superimpose the computer video over it.

    That japanese companies did not dominate the global microcomputer market
    in the 1980s is some sort of oddity to me. Yet, that is was happened.


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  • From Mortar M.@21:2/101 to lodger on Monday, April 28, 2025 14:15:30
    Re: Re: Japanese Computers
    By: lodger to Newtype Len on Mon Apr 28 2025 13:15:22

    What is amazing is that one of those 8 bit systems from the
    mid-80s was able to "Genlock" video and superimpose the computer
    video over it.

    No 8-bit micro could do this. However, your probably thinking of the Video Toaster, which did have a builit-in genlock. The VT was a plug-in card for the Amiga 2000 or higher. An awesome piece of technology for the day. You can watch the original promo videos on YouTube.
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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to Mortar M. on Monday, April 28, 2025 22:14:38
    Re: Re: Japanese Computers
    By: Mortar M. to lodger on Mon Apr 28 2025 14:15:30

    Hi, Mortar.

    What is amazing is that one of those 8 bit systems from the
    mid-80s was able to "Genlock" video and superimpose the computer
    video over it.

    No 8-bit micro could do this.

    The (8 bit) BBC micro could do Genlock, I believe they used to sync the computers to the studio timing feed when they filmed the BBC Computer Literacy stuff like Making the Most of the Micro so that the screens could be recorded without flicker during the live demos.

    There's a random story about an ex-studio(?) Beeb turning up in the Netherlands here:

    https://stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13573

    BobW
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  • From lodger@21:1/168 to Mortar M. on Monday, April 28, 2025 23:38:41
    Mortar M. wrote to lodger:
    Re: Re: Japanese Computers
    By: lodger to Newtype Len on Mon Apr 28 2025 13:15:22

    What is amazing is that one of those 8 bit systems from the
    mid-80s was able to "Genlock" video and superimpose the computer
    video over it.

    No 8-bit micro could do this. However, your probably thinking of the Video Toaster, which did have a builit-in genlock. The VT was a plug-in card for the Amiga 2000 or higher. An awesome piece of technology for the day. You can watch the original promo videos on YouTube.
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    It was the Fujitsu FM77AV which could do this. Just looked it up here:

    https://museum.ipsj.or.jp/en/computer/personal/0017.html



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  • From Mortar M.@21:2/101 to Bob Worm on Tuesday, April 29, 2025 00:40:32
    Re: Re: Japanese Computers
    By: Bob Worm to Mortar M. on Mon Apr 28 2025 22:14:38

    The (8 bit) BBC micro could do Genlock...

    With the help of a genlock add-on card. In this case, it was the Cox 630B genlock card, so after a fashion, your right.
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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to Mortar M. on Tuesday, April 29, 2025 21:38:18
    Re: Re: Japanese Computers
    By: Mortar M. to Bob Worm on Tue Apr 29 2025 00:40:32

    The (8 bit) BBC micro could do Genlock...

    With the help of a genlock add-on card. In this case, it was the Cox 630B genlock card, so after a fashion, your right.

    I was talking to my Acorn friend today and he claims you didn't need a Genlock add-on card to sync to a central studio clock - there was apparently a fairly simple mod that could do it.

    I don't have a source for this, though :)

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