On 31 Dec 2025, niter3 said the following...

I'm glad you asked!

Im wondering can you run a bbs with it?

After some research of my own (not owning one) it very much should be
able to.

Image BBS is an easy one to setup under Vice at least. I'm sure bucko or one of the other guys could help or provide documentation?

Which I should look into? Is there documentation for Image BBS base install... Must be...

Are you planning to buy a c64u?

You can run Image on the new 64u, the only thing that hasn't been tested well is the built in Swiftlink, I used to run one of my boards on a Ultimate 64 (the precursor of the new 64u) but I used a real swiftlink with a PC to run BBS Server as the telnet connector. My personal opinion is why use a 50 year old computer or for that matter a computer you just spent $400 on to run a BBS???? Run it is Vice and use an old PC or buy a off lease PC on eBay for $30! I run my boards in VM's on Proxmoxx.. My BBS on a Stick project makes it very simple to install and run in either Windows or Linux.

I guess it's time to start playing with my U64 and update it to see about getting it working fine with Image..


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Re: Re: Merry Christmas!
By: Adept to Mortar M. on Wed Dec 31 2025 18:03:53

The thing with the advent calendars...

What's an advent calendar?
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Re: Re: The Flat Box Society
By: Adept to Mortar M. on Wed Dec 31 2025 18:24:13

This made me laugh. I'd probably go out and buy a beer just to be able to offer you one, after that.

Make it a Dew and yor're on. :)
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The thing with the advent calendars...

What's an advent calendar?

In this case, I'm referring to mass-produced things you can get at a store, where there are 24 doors to open, one for each day up to Christmas Eve.

There are many to choose from, at least in Germany. Chocolate is the most common, but there are beauty calendars (I got one that was lotions and soaps), wine/gin/beer calendars, dice calendars, and so on.

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You can run Image on the new 64u, the only thing that hasn't been tested well is the built in Swiftlink, I used to run one of my boards on a Ultimate 64 (the precursor of the new 64u) but I used a real swiftlink with a PC to run BBS Server as the telnet connector. My personal opinion is why use a 50 year old computer or for that matter a computer you just spent $400 on to run a BBS???? Run it is Vice and use an old PC or buy a off lease PC on eBay for $30! I run my boards in VM's on Proxmoxx.. My
BBS on a Stick project makes it very simple to install and run in either Windows or Linux.

You're not wrong, all that money spent to run only a BBS on...

But then again, some people like myself were not big gamers of that time and feel the c64u would just gain dust otherwise?

There is something to be said about a physical computer sitting there with the WFC up on the screen and somebody dialing in....

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On 01 Jan 2026, niter3 said the following...

You're not wrong, all that money spent to run only a BBS on...

But then again, some people like myself were not big gamers of that time and feel the c64u would just gain dust otherwise?

There is something to be said about a physical computer sitting there
with the WFC up on the screen and somebody dialing in....

... Press SPACEBAR once to abort, or twice to save changes

Totally agree, when I was running one on my U64, at least it was getting used. Now it just sits there, I am probably 4 or 5 updates behind also as I haven't used it in ages!! In the next few weeks I will update my U64 and see about getting the settings straight to have Image run on it fine..


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Totally agree, when I was running one on my U64, at least it was getting used. Now it just sits there, I am probably 4 or 5 updates behind also
as I haven't used it in ages!! In the next few weeks I will update my
U64 and see about getting the settings straight to have Image run on it fine..

Nice! I'll keep an eye out for updates...

Obviously I don't have a c64u at the moment...

Is there also a normal install guide from scratch?

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niter3 wrote to Bucko <=-

There is something to be said about a physical computer sitting there
with the WFC up on the screen and somebody dialing in....

My first solo apartment was a studio in downtown San Francisco. Old, art
deco building with a huge walk-in closet. I took one of my parent's
cast-off end-tables, a cast-off IBM AT clone from work, and set up my
BBS in that closet. My green monochrome monitor ended up getting burned
in with the FrontDoor WFC screen.

If I left the closet door open, I'd get a bit of a green cast - enough
to get up and walk around at night.

I remember hearing the modem speaker on the lowest setting and the hard
drive chattering during the middle of the night, it amazed me that a
computer in my closet was transferring mail and accepting callers from
around the world in different time zones.



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Totally agree, when I was running one on my U64, at least it was getting used. Now it just sits there, I am probably 4 or 5 updates behind also as

I notice there isn't a C*Base Wrong Number board....


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On 01 Jan 2026, niter3 said the following...

Nice! I'll keep an eye out for updates...

Obviously I don't have a c64u at the moment...

Is there also a normal install guide from scratch?

A normal install guide for Image? If so, yes, the doc file has the installation instructions, I also have written a doc file which starts at the beginning and goes from there, Just don't know where I uploaded it to! More than likely it is on my webpage under Image support and probably in the section for Wrong Number family files..


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On 01 Jan 2026, phigan said the following...

I notice there isn't a C*Base Wrong Number board....

No, never got into C*Base, I run what I ran back in the day. Image, and C-Net Amiga, although I wish I could run Excelsior! for the Amiga because that was what I ran in the 90's but because it is not Y2K it won't run properly with FTN networks. The Centipede board I run is a ode to my Co-SysOp from back in the day he never wanted to run what everyone else ran, I put that up because he died a year and a half ago, and I just wanted to do something in his memory!


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Re: Re: C64 Reborn
By: poindexter FORTRAN to niter3 on Thu Jan 01 2026 09:39:26

My first solo apartment was a studio in downtown San Francisco. Old, art deco building with a huge walk-in closet. I took one of my parent's
cast-off end-tables, a cast-off IBM AT clone from work, and set up my
BBS in that closet.

Parallel occurance: My first apartment was on the West side of Detroit. A non-descript, three-story building. It was here I got my first PC clone which came with an internal, 1200 baud modem, hence, my first foray in BBSes. Even ran one for a short time called "Get Serious". Since the phone jack was (stupidly) in the dining area, for a time, my setup made its home on the dining table, which was fine as I didn't use it much; I liked to eat watching TV. Eventually, it ended up on in my bedroom on an old sewing desk that my Ma game me.

My green monochrome monitor ended up getting burned in with the FrontDoor WFC screen.

Why didn't you shut off the monitor when not needed?
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My green monochrome monitor ended up getting burned in with the FrontDo WFC screen.

Why didn't you shut off the monitor when not needed?

I don't understand; he was running a BBS, so clearly it was needed at all times.

(I kid, but only slightly. I think active sysops wanted to know what was going on with their BBS, and that includes knowing that the system is down because something odd was on the screen. And during the night, clearly the screen was functioning as a nightlight.)

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BBS in that closet. My green monochrome monitor ended up getting burned
in with the FrontDoor WFC screen.

HA, I can recall this being an issue for many monitors. Good old CRT's. :)

I remember hearing the modem speaker on the lowest setting and the hard drive chattering during the middle of the night, it amazed me that a computer in my closet was transferring mail and accepting callers from around the world in different time zones.

Did you loose sleep over it?

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A normal install guide for Image? If so, yes, the doc file has the installation instructions, I also have written a doc file which starts
at the beginning and goes from there, Just don't know where I uploaded
it to! More than likely it is on my webpage under Image support and probably in the section for Wrong Number family files..

Sounds like I have some digging to do. :)

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Mortar M. wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

My green monochrome monitor ended up getting burned in with the FrontDoor WFC screen.

Why didn't you shut off the monitor when not needed?

I liked the green glow at night. :)



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Adept wrote to Mortar M. <=-

(I kid, but only slightly. I think active sysops wanted to know what
was going on with their BBS, and that includes knowing that the system
is down because something odd was on the screen. And during the night, clearly the screen was functioning as a nightlight.)

In 1991, I went to SCO for a 5-day UNIX class. I rebooted the BBS,
figured all would be OK. A day or so into it, the BBS rang no answer.
Not much I could do about it.

I got back into my apartment, and saw the problem. FrontDoor couldn't
initialize the modem, and so it gave up and the batch file looped back
to restart it. repeated over and over, about once every 45 seconds.

The problem was that each time it exited, it let out a little SOS in
morse code through the PC speaker. Every 45 seconds. 24 hours a day.
For 4 days straight. I'm glad I didn't run into my next door neighbor
after that!



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On 02 Jan 2026, niter3 said the following...

Sounds like I have some digging to do. :)

Here is the link to the install guide for installing in Vice...

https://www.wrgnbr.com/files/WNF_Files/imageinstall.pdf

If you need the docs to the whole thing let me know and I will put that on my website also...


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What is MD?

Mad Dog?!?

Oh gawk! Even if I did drink I wouldn't drink that. From what I've heard, MD2020 ranks right up there with Ripple.

That it just might. I have never tried either. I know of Ripple from
Sanford and Son, but that is my only contact with it. ;)

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Here is the link to the install guide for installing in Vice...

https://www.wrgnbr.com/files/WNF_Files/imageinstall.pdf

Awesome! Thanks, bookmarked it for a later read.

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Hello Adept,

01 Jan 26 11:05, you wrote to Mortar M.:

The thing with the advent calendars...

What's an advent calendar?

In this case, I'm referring to mass-produced things you can get at a
store, where there are 24 doors to open, one for each day up to
Christmas Eve.

There are many to choose from, at least in Germany. Chocolate is the
most common, but there are beauty calendars (I got one that was
lotions and soaps), wine/gin/beer calendars, dice calendars, and so
on.

hmm.. i never tought about it as a european-only thing :)

ByEbYe
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Re: Merry Christmas!
By: Roon to Adept on Sat Jan 03 2026 08:06 pm

What's an advent calendar?

In this case, I'm referring to mass-produced things you can get at a
store, where there are 24 doors to open, one for each day up to Christmas
Eve.

There are many to choose from, at least in Germany. Chocolate is the most

hmm.. i never tought about it as a european-only thing :)

I don't think it is. I've seen advent calendars here in the US too. That said, the first time I'd heard of an advent calendar was when learning German in high school.

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Re: C64 Reborn
By: niter3 to Bucko on Sat Jan 03 2026 07:15:42

... Origin of Life? Just check my refrigerator...

That deserves a song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH3UncRagXY
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There are many to choose from, at least in Germany. Chocolate is the most common, but there are beauty calendars (I got one that was lotions and soaps), wine/gin/beer calendars, dice calendars, and so on.

hmm.. i never tought about it as a european-only thing :)

I don't think it is, but my experience prior to moving to Germany was that an Advent calendar was the calendar my mom made out of felt, where it'd have a felt piece to snap on to the tree, along with a fitting Bible verse for the day.

But I would expect that they've become more popular in the US over the last decade, because it seems like a way to sell things to people.

But it's possible that they just weren't on my radar, for whatever reason. I'd be interested in hearing if other people had experiences with the commercial calendars.

Oh, and on that thought, last year I got a Ramadan calendar. Which I hadn't seen before, and might be also new. But I've never been to, oh, Turkey or Indonesia.

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I don't think it is. I've seen advent calendars here in the US too. That said, the first time I'd heard of an advent calendar was when learning German in high school.

Same, but substitute Spanish for German. ;) Back then I didn't know
anyone who used advent calendars. It seems to be more of a thing now.
Some of my family members receive them from another family member. The
family member who sends them learned about them the same way I did, and
also has a mother in law from Germany and a father in law from England
(both now deceased).
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Re: Re: Merry Christmas!
By: slacker to Brian Scott on Fri Dec 26 2025 06:42 am

Merry Belated!

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Re: Re: Merry Christmas!
By: Zip to Brian Scott on Fri Dec 26 2025 08:51 pm

Howdy howdy!

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Re: Re: Merry Christmas!
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Mortar M. on Tue Dec 30 2025 07:54 am

(Nerdy Aside: The knife I have is a Boker Magnum, the same knife Admiral

I am a fan of Boker Magnum folders. They are cost effective, solid, and their lock is quite ok for being liners.

The screws tend to be a bit meh, though, and the steel is not top tier. What I mean is it is not at the level of great knives but they do very well. When people asks me which knife to get, if they are looking for a folder, I typically tell them to get a Boker Magnum if they can find it for cheap.

I am a fixed blade guy, though. Kukris for open carry, The Ka-Bar or Laredo bowies for concealed carry.


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