• Re: Framework laptop

    From Gamgee@21:2/138 to paulie420 on Wednesday, September 10, 2025 21:02:36
    paulie420 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Nice - and you paid up. :P Glad you haven't had any issues - but my hardware has had a bad mic since day 1... however I still support the company and their mission.

    Well that sucks. Not sure of the warranty policy, but would that cover the bad mic problem? Seems like it should.

    IMO Framework support is GREAT - for all the issues/things that they
    get multiple complaints about. I reported the non-functional mic within
    2 weeks of purchase. When I VERY FIRST installed Windows, I saw it -
    but then it stopped working; th was over less than a week. After installing [many] Linux distros, the mic hasn't worked since week 1.

    Framework DID send out a camera/mic module replacement - but that
    didn't fix the issue... its not the module, but something else - either the wiring to the mainboard or the connection maybe?? At any rate, I
    wish Framework would have very early on just said we're shipping out a
    new laptop and send yours back in the box we provided - but they
    didn't...

    Ugh. It does sound like a possible connection/wiring from the mic to
    the mainboard.

    Our email chains would go on, them asking questions and me giving different replies - and then I'd ignore it for a couple months - this
    went on for 3-4 different cycles of emails; in the end, there was no
    fix and no offer to replace.

    So... I do think my issue is an odd one/something one-off - but their support for those issues is/was lacking IMO. That being said, I'm still
    a fan and I wonder when I upgrade my mainboard if that issue will go
    away.

    Hope so and good luck!


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to paulie420 on Thursday, September 11, 2025 09:15:24
    Re: Re: Framework laptop
    By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 10 2025 06:19 pm

    Although I tend to like buying the newest thing, maybe I'll have a look
    at the 13.. I'll probably keep it around for a while, so it might be
    worth having the newest version though.

    It simply comes down to whether you NEED a full blown graphics card or not. If not, the 13 is really capable and the new AMD CPUs look really good.

    It looks like you can buy the 16 without a full blown graphics card too.

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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to PAULIE420 on Thursday, September 11, 2025 11:31:23
    To those of us not as "in the know" :D, what benefit does the GPU provide, or what do you lose not having one? Pretty sure my current laptop doesn't have one, and I am none the wiser -- which makes me think getting a new one without wouldn't be an issue.

    Well, the new Framework 16 has an Nvidia 5080 GPU card; the 13 does not - its just the APU on the CPU... graphics on chip.

    The 16 is a full fledged graphics card, which is pretty flippin sick!!

    If you don't use a machine for gaming, and mostly only use it for
    "normal" desktop things -- the most graphically intensive thing you might
    do is watch youtube videos -- is there a benefit of having a system that
    has a separate GPU?


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 11, 2025 09:48:58
    Re: Re: Framework laptop
    By: Dumas Walker to PAULIE420 on Thu Sep 11 2025 11:31 am

    If you don't use a machine for gaming, and mostly only use it for "normal" desktop things -- the most graphically intensive thing you might do is watch youtube videos -- is there a benefit of having a system that has a separate GPU?

    GPUs can be used for general computational stuff too; not just gaming. Video rendering/transcoding, and other software that does a lot of math-intensive stuff, could use a GPU for that, which could speed it up quite a bit. And not just crypto mining, either.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 11, 2025 19:43:48
    The 16 is a full fledged graphics card, which is pretty flippin sick!!

    If you don't use a machine for gaming, and mostly only use it for
    "normal" desktop things -- the most graphically intensive thing you might do is watch youtube videos -- is there a benefit of having a system that has a separate GPU?

    Video editing, photo editing, Blender, DaVinci Resolve, AI, etc. That being said, I still don't have a NEED for a GPU; a current-gen APU is still good enough for my needs. (The most I do is light 4K video editing...)



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 11, 2025 22:06:38
    Dumas Walker wrote to PAULIE420 <=-

    To those of us not as "in the know" :D, what benefit does the GPU provide, or what do you lose not having one? Pretty sure my current laptop doesn't have one, and I am none the wiser -- which makes me
    think
    getting a new one without wouldn't be an issue.

    Well, the new Framework 16 has an Nvidia 5080 GPU card; the 13 does not -
    its
    just the APU on the CPU... graphics on chip.

    The 16 is a full fledged graphics card, which is pretty flippin sick!!

    If you don't use a machine for gaming, and mostly only use it for
    "normal" desktop things -- the most graphically intensive thing you
    might do is watch youtube videos -- is there a benefit of having a
    system that has a separate GPU?

    No. The AMD CPUs in those systems have very capable graphics built into
    them. I've had a Framework 16 for a year+ and LOVE it.



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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to NIGHTFOX on Friday, September 12, 2025 10:07:03
    If you don't use a machine for gaming, and mostly only use it for "normal
    desktop things -- the most graphically intensive thing you might do is watch youtube videos -- is there a benefit of having a system that has a separate GPU?

    GPUs can be used for general computational stuff too; not just gaming. Video rendering/transcoding, and other software that does a lot of math-intensive stuff, could use a GPU for that, which could speed it up quite a bit. And not
    just crypto mining, either.

    When you say transcoding, would that include a program like shotcut that
    one might use to create a video?

    on edit: I think Paulie answered my question. Thanks!


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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to PAULIE420 on Friday, September 12, 2025 10:07:03
    If you don't use a machine for gaming, and mostly only use it for "normal" desktop things -- the most graphically intensive thing you might
    do is watch youtube videos -- is there a benefit of having a system that has a separate GPU?

    Video editing, photo editing, Blender, DaVinci Resolve, AI, etc. That being said, I still don't have a NEED for a GPU; a current-gen APU is still good enough for my needs. (The most I do is light 4K video editing...)

    hmmm, now those first two things are things that I do, so that is good to
    know!


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