Hello,
Sting asked that I post this a few places to let you know his A-Net BBS set of systems are offline due to a network issue - potentially until Friday.

Hope this is an ok place to put this.

Regards,
Basis
Convolution BBS - Convolution.us

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Sting asked that I post this a few places to let you know his A-Net BBS set of systems are offline due to a network issue - potentially until Friday.

Sucks, SR - don't worry about us, we know yer a mainstay in this space and hope that you get your network up again soon. :/ UGH.

A-Net BBS for the w1n!



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Sting asked that I post this a few places to let you know his A-Net BBS
set of systems are offline due to a network issue - potentially until
Friday.

Sucks, SR - don't worry about us, we know yer a mainstay in this space and hope that you get your network up again soon. :/ UGH.

A-Net BBS for the w1n!

pAULIE42o
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HUGE Thanks to Basis for sending the messages for me!

Thank you, Paulie!! There was a HUGE area-wide AT&T outage in my area. We lost fiber internet and cell phone service, too.
I assume their backhaul went out since we also lost cell coverage.

All systems back online! =:-)

-StingRay
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StingRay wrote to paulie420 <=-

Thank you, Paulie!! There was a HUGE area-wide AT&T outage in my area.
We lost fiber internet and cell phone service, too. I assume their backhaul went out since we also lost cell coverage.

I've wanted to go AT&T fiber to get symmetric service, but we're all
fed from overhead poles. I'm on a dead-end cul de sac, and power poles
alternate sides of the street.

Walking my dog yesterday, I saw 2 fiber house runs on my block knocked
down by a moving truck - when you have to cross a street and run
diagonally to get to the house, the amount of sag in the cable makes it
susceptible to being snagged by high trucks.

AT&T finally solved my next-door neighbor's recurring cable cuts by
throwing the AT&T fiber over the Comcast cable on the pole, giving it
about a foot more height running to the house. It's all fine until
friction wears through the cable jacket, but that'll be someone else's
problem.




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I've wanted to go AT&T fiber to get symmetric service, but we're all fed from overhead poles. I'm on a dead-end cul de sac, and power poles alternate sides of the street.

Walking my dog yesterday, I saw 2 fiber house runs on my block knocked down by a moving truck - when you have to cross a street and run diagonally to get to the house, the amount of sag in the cable makes it susceptible to being snagged by high trucks.

AT&T finally solved my next-door neighbor's recurring cable cuts by throwing the AT&T fiber over the Comcast cable on the pole, giving it about a foot more height running to the house. It's all fine until friction wears through the cable jacket, but that'll be someone else's problem.

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This is the first outage in almost 5 years. Even though it was an inconvience, I can't complain with the uptime vs outage ratio.

I work from home full-time so this is extremely important.

-StingRay
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On 11 Jun 2026, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

I've wanted to go AT&T fiber to get symmetric service, but we're all
fed from overhead poles. I'm on a dead-end cul de sac, and power poles
alternate sides of the street.

could you put your own pole up at a halfway point? offer to pay for the little extra cable that is required if it's not quite as direct as they'd usually run it? maybe throw a light on there and point it at the driveway hehe

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HUGE Thanks to Basis for sending the messages for me!

Thank you, Paulie!! There was a HUGE area-wide AT&T outage in my area. We lost fiber internet and cell phone service, too. I assume their
backhaul went out since we also lost cell coverage.

All systems back online! =:-)

Yay! Go Stingray!

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HUGE Thanks to Basis for sending the messages for me!

Thank you, Paulie!! There was a HUGE area-wide AT&T outage in my area. We
lost fiber internet and cell phone service, too. I assume their backhaul
went out since we also lost cell coverage.

All systems back online! =:-)

Yay! Go Stingray!

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=:-)
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Thank you, Paulie!! There was a HUGE area-wide AT&T outage in my area.
We lost fiber internet and cell phone service, too.
I assume their backhaul went out since we also lost cell coverage.

All systems back online! =:-)

Boom - just like that, our A-Net is back to n0rmal!!!



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This is the first outage in almost 5 years. Even though it was an inconvience, I can't complain with the uptime vs outage ratio.

Better than Github!

(Yeah, yeah, just because basically everything is...)

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StingRay wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

This is the first outage in almost 5 years. Even though it was an inconvience, I can't complain with the uptime vs outage ratio.

I work from home full-time so this is extremely important.

Yeah, sounds like it was a biggie. I work from home, too. I have
Xfinity, and have gotten used to once a week having to power-cycle my
router. I have a deal for the next 12 months due to a billing issue of
theirs, we''ll see what happens at the end of it. I'm paying $120/month
for phone, internet and cable with a DVR now.

I'm working with Comcast on a deal for my offices at work, accidentally
called them Xfinity. They were quick to correct me that they're a
different organization. :)



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fusion wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

could you put your own pole up at a halfway point? offer to pay for the little extra cable that is required if it's not quite as direct as
they'd usually run it? maybe throw a light on there and point it at the driveway hehe

I don't use AT&T's copper coming into the house any more, it looks like
I've got a little bit more clearance than my neighbors from how their
copper runs. I'd need to figure out how to get from the top of my roof
into my office, though. I may order AT&T fiber alongside Comcast just
to try it out.



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I work from home full-time so this is extremely important.

Yeah, sounds like it was a biggie. I work from home, too. I have Xfinity, and have gotten used to once a week having to power-cycle my router. I have a deal for the next 12 months due to a billing issue of theirs, we''ll see what happens at the end of it. I'm paying $120/month for phone, internet and cable with a DVR now.

I'm working with Comcast on a deal for my offices at work, accidentally called them Xfinity. They were quick to correct me that they're a different organization. :)

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Yeah so you get it! Working from home we gotta have the internet!!

As much as a PITA as it was, 1 time in almost 5 years I really can't complain. We found out it was from the consturction crew (road work - lane widening) being done next to our neighborhood and an excavator knocked a pole over.

So technically, not even AT&T fault. Hope you find something that works well!

I have been very happy with the AT&T fiber.

-StingRay
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I'm working with Comcast on a deal for my offices at work, accidentally
called them Xfinity. They were quick to correct me that they're a
different organization. :)

I thought they were the same company. That they had switched their name several years back.
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I'm working with Comcast on a deal for my offices at work, accidenta
called them Xfinity. They were quick to correct me that they're a
different organization. :)

I thought they were the same company. That they had switched their name several years back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfinity

...seems to indicate they still are a part of Comcast.

I'm figuring that pF is saying, "they're a different organization" because the corporate side he's working for interacts with a part of Comcast that is not Xfinity.

Maybe.

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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: Adept to Geri Atricks on Sat Jun 13 2026 11:46 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfinity

...seems to indicate they still are a part of Comcast.

I'm figuring that pF is saying, "they're a different organization" because the corporate side he's working for interacts with a part of Comcast that is not Xfinity.

I always thought Xfinity was the name of a particular service (or service bundle), such as a tier of broadband internet & premium cable TV or something, provided by Comcast.
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I always thought Xfinity was the name of a particular service (or service bundle), such as a tier of broadband internet & premium cable TV or something, provided by Comcast.

Xfinity FECKED me today - changed my 5 year static IP to something new, screwing up ALL my public facing projects... sorry for 2oFB users trying to login, techheart.life posts and 20forbeers.com website and TELNET Second Reality users. SUCK.

Should be all back to normal - I was sweating for a minute... this is what devops folks go thru, I'm assuming. Why the hell wouldn't they TELL ME about changes in the pipeline?!?!?! And I think they're gonna feck with it again tomorrow - if you see me go down, thats why.

FML.



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Xfinity FECKED me today - changed my 5 year static IP to something new, screwing up ALL my public facing projects... sorry for 2oFB users trying to login, techheart.life posts and 20forbeers.com website and TELNET Second Reality users. SUCK.

If your power is out for more than 4 hours (where you have no internet access via your router), it will assign you a new IP from Comcast.

... It doesn't work, but it looks pretty.

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Xfinity FECKED me today - changed my 5 year static IP to something new, screwing up ALL my public facing projects... sorry for 2oFB users tryin login, techheart.life posts and 20forbeers.com website and TELNET Secon Reality users. SUCK.

If your power is out for more than 4 hours (where you have no internet access via your router), it will assign you a new IP from Comcast.

Is that true??? b/c yea, it was OFF for more than 4 hours - and... my old 'static' IP hadn't changed for 4 years - but it did yesterday. Had to change my DNS settings across two domain controllers.

Another thing that happened... one of my servers Intel 10GB NICs went into HEAT HELL b/c of the change - it went down; so after the DNS issue, I had to chase down the NIC issue, bring it all the way down, re-connect its bind0 interface and bring it back up so my NFS shares were working again.

Man - all that BS because of xfinitys BS... fun times.



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ME about changes in the pipeline?!?!?! And I think they're gonna feck
with it again tomorrow - if you see me go down, thats why.

Here's to hoping that you don't have to move to a dynamic DNS option.

And my condolences, regardless. I depend on Vultr not suddenly changing my server IP, but thankfully they have a better history with that than Comcast / Xfinity.

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Is that true??? b/c yea, it was OFF for more than 4 hours - and... my old 'static' IP hadn't changed for 4 years - but it did yesterday. Had to chang my DNS settings across two domain controllers.

It happens to me everytime we have a scheduled power outage of like 4 hours or more .... It might even be like 2 hours. It's a pain in the ass, I get it.

Man - all that BS because of xfinitys BS... fun times.

Yup. :(

... I'd love to, but my bathroom tiles need grouting.

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Hey paulie420!

On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 21:15:16 -0700, you wrote:

Xfinity FECKED me today - changed my 5 year static IP to something new, screwing up ALL my public facing projects... sorry for 2oFB users trying
to login, techheart.life posts and 20forbeers.com website and TELNET
Second Reality users. SUCK.

Should be all back to normal - I was sweating for a minute... this is
what devops folks go thru, I'm assuming. Why the hell wouldn't they TELL
ME about changes in the pipeline?!?!?! And I think they're gonna feck
with it again tomorrow - if you see me go down, thats why.

Is/was it an actual STATIC IP that you pay specifically for? Otherwise, it could just be a dynamic IP that rarely ever changes, unless the hardware does.

I have Spectrum cable internet with a dynamic IP - as I don't pay specifically for a static one (which I assume would only be available via a "business class" tier. If I don't change my modem or router, or there isn't any huge cable outages in the area (recently they upgraded coax to fiber - which caused a change in my IP), my IP address always stays the same. I believe it has only changed like twice in the past 10 years.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Mon Jun 15 2026 09:15 pm

Xfinity FECKED me today - changed my 5 year static IP to something new, screwing up ALL my public facing projects... sorry for 2oFB users trying to login, techheart.life posts and 20forbeers.com website and TELNET Second Reality users. SUCK.

Should be all back to normal - I was sweating for a minute... this is what devops folks go thru, I'm assuming. Why the hell wouldn't they TELL ME about changes in the pipeline?!?!?! And I think they're gonna feck with it again tomorrow - if you see me go down, thats why.

Meh.. :/ That sucks. I used to use Comcast/Xfinity but switched to fiber internet service once I moved to a place where that was available (it was Frontier Fiber at the time, and it has been Ziply Fiber since 2020).

When I had Comcast/Xfinity, I had internet service and a basic cable TV package - I only got the basic TV package because I assumed my over-the-air TV reception might not be very good where I was living. Eventually, I tried an over-the-air antenna and found that the reception was actually pretty good. And a silly thing about Comcast's basic TV service is that the box they sent me was outputting a standard-definition, square picture on the TV, whereas I'd get a HD widescreen image over the air. One of the shows I like to watch sometimes is Jeopardy, and with their box outputting a square picture, it would cut off the left & right sides, so some things were misisng from the picture (along with it not looking great because it was SD). I called Comcast to remove my basic TV service and just keep internet, but they said my bill would increase if I did that.. So I just unplugged the TV box and put it away until I canceled my Comcast service.

I think you're near the Portland, OR area? If so, maybe look into Ziply Fiber. I think their service has been pretty good, although a while ago I heard they were basically acquired by Bell Canada, and since then there have been some weird billing stuff.. But otherwise I've been happy with them, and their internet service has been very good. One advantage of fiber is that you get the same speed for both download and upload, which is a benefit if you're running servers (which I know you are, for your BBS & such).

I believe Ziply Fiber has options for a static IP too if you need one, though I'm not sure if that would bump you into a business tier and might cost more.
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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: Exodus to Paulie420 on Tue Jun 16 2026 11:14 pm

Xfinity FECKED me today - changed my 5 year static IP to something new,

If your power is out for more than 4 hours (where you have no internet access via your router), it will assign you a new IP from Comcast.

Even if you have a static IP address?
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If your power is out for more than 4 hours (where you have no internet access via your router), it will assign you a new IP from Comcast.

Even if you have a static IP address?

It's not static. It's Dynamic, but hardly ever changes.

... Can you repeat the part after "Listen very carefully"

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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: Exodus to Nightfox on Wed Jun 17 2026 04:39 pm

If your power is out for more than 4 hours (where you have no
internet
access via your router), it will assign you a new IP from Comcast.

Even if you have a static IP address?

It's not static. It's Dynamic, but hardly ever changes.

I wasn't referring to yours; I was referring to paulie420's - He said he's using Xfinity and had a static IP address that changed after 5 years after a power outage.
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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: paulie420 to Exodus on Tue Jun 16 2026 10:04 pm

Howdy,

Is that true??? b/c yea, it was OFF for more than 4 hours - and... my old 'static' IP hadn't changed for 4 years - but it did yesterday. Had to change my DNS settings across two domain controllers.

Another thing that happened... one of my servers Intel 10GB NICs went into HEAT HELL b/c of the change - it went down; so after the DNS issue, I had to chase down the NIC issue, bring it all the way down, re-connect its bind0 interface and bring it back up so my NFS shares were working again.

You've heard me talk about my intus project before - this is another side benefit that I was thinking about.

If your "inside" network is consistent and static, but your "outside" network is dynamic, then anybody else who has (direct) access to your "inside" network are not affected by "outside" forces :)

Hopefully too you can reduce the blast radius when an outside event happens...


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On 15 Jun 26 21:15:17, Paulie420 said the following to Nightfox:

Xfinity FECKED me today - changed my 5 year static IP to something new, screwing up ALL my public facing projects... sorry for 2oFB users trying to login, techheart.life posts and 20forbeers.com website and TELNET Second Reality users. SUCK.

Sorry to politely disagree, but find this to sound exaggerated. And perhaps if you want to avoid problems you should consider paying for an enterprise-grade ISP with an SLA and not have these amateur-hour problems. Surely you can afford a dedicated circuit with all the donations you claim to receive?

I run nearly an identical setup with Windows servers and domain controllers, never once had any DNS or public-facing changes taking any longer than a few minutes. Wasn't a blip on anyones radar, and this runs a Fidonet zone with hundreds of connections per day. Nobody cares and I do not care if they did.

Atreyu

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On 17 Jun 2026, Atreyu said the following...

I run nearly an identical setup with Windows servers and domain controllers, never once had any DNS or public-facing changes taking any longer than a few minutes. Wasn't a blip on anyones radar, and this runs
a Fidonet zone with hundreds of connections per day. Nobody cares and I do not care if they did.

"hundreds of connections a day" is like saying "i own a business" and then showing off your lemonade stand

nice "look at me!" hardware gloat though

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On 18 Jun 26 10:17:54, Fusion said the following to Atreyu:

longer than a few minutes. Wasn't a blip on anyones radar, and this run a Fidonet zone with hundreds of connections per day. Nobody cares and do not care if they did.

"hundreds of connections a day" is like saying "i own a business" and then showing off your lemonade stand

Bahaha... https://www.darkrealms.ca/binkdexample.log

Please count all the "Incoming from" lines for my lemonade stand.

Atreyu

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On 18 Jun 2026, Atreyu said the following...

On 18 Jun 26 10:17:54, Fusion said the following to Atreyu:

longer than a few minutes. Wasn't a blip on anyones radar, and thi a Fidonet zone with hundreds of connections per day. Nobody cares do not care if they did.

"hundreds of connections a day" is like saying "i own a business" and t showing off your lemonade stand

Bahaha... https://www.darkrealms.ca/binkdexample.log

Please count all the "Incoming from" lines for my lemonade stand.

cat binkdexample.log| grep -i "incoming session" | awk '{print $7}' | sort | uniq | wc -l

wow you're sending an average of 16kbytes to 67 hosts. 180.9mb total

what an amazing lemonade stand.

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On 18 Jun 26 15:15:49, Fusion said the following to Atreyu:

Please count all the "Incoming from" lines for my lemonade stand.

cat binkdexample.log| grep -i "incoming session" | awk '{print $7}' | sort | uniq | wc -l

wow you're sending an average of 16kbytes to 67 hosts. 180.9mb total

what an amazing lemonade stand.

Many hosts that routinely poll here several dozens of times per day equalling hundreds of incoming connections, which is what you doubted.

I answered you promptly and factually and you want to be a techno-dick.

Hilarious... Are you related to Professor Jas Hud?

Atreyu

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On 18 Jun 2026, Atreyu said the following...

Many hosts that routinely poll here several dozens of times per day equalling hundreds of incoming connections, which is what you doubted.

i didn't doubt it. i implied it wasn't very much.

I answered you promptly and factually and you want to be a techno-dick.

was just joshin man. it means a lot to the community you went with enterprise grade stuff.

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On 18 Jun 26 15:38:59, Fusion said the following to Atreyu:

Many hosts that routinely poll here several dozens of times per day equalling hundreds of incoming connections, which is what you doubted.

i didn't doubt it. i implied it wasn't very much.

Correct, not much "what" is transferred, hence my phrase about me "not caring" although noise would be made by some if the content ever stopped flowing. The noise level can be measured by the size of one's rainbow-colored suspenders.

I answered you promptly and factually and you want to be a techno-dick.

was just joshin man. it means a lot to the community you went with enterpris grade stuff.

Its not entirely for my own amusement and certainly not for any recognition. I don't need or even accept donations. Some longtime friends were made over the years by trading silly Netmails back 'n forth... good enough for me.

But there are a few unrelated paying-customer projects I ended up that required spending on decent hardware and Internet... BBS stuff is all trivial.

Atreyu

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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: fusion to Atreyu on Thu Jun 18 2026 03:15 pm

Howdy,

cat binkdexample.log| grep -i "incoming session" | awk '{print $7}' | sort | uniq | wc -l

wow you're sending an average of 16kbytes to 67 hosts. 180.9mb total

Ha, "That's not a knife..."


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On 19 Jun 26 08:47:41, Deon said the following to Fusion:

wow you're sending an average of 16kbytes to 67 hosts. 180.9mb total

Ha, "That's not a knife..."

The moment anyone of those 67 hosts complain that they didn't get their mail, you would be the first to happily pounce with offers of echofeeds.

Please, lets see you share your stats in the same open manner as I have.

I answered the question. Lets see you answer mine.

Atreyu

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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: Atreyu to Deon on Thu Jun 18 2026 07:05 pm

Howdy,

Ha, "That's not a knife..."

The moment anyone of those 67 hosts complain that they didn't get their mail, you would be the first to happily pounce with offers of echofeeds.

Yup, always happy to help with a primary or secondary/redundant feed to anybody who wants one.

Please, lets see you share your stats in the same open manner as I have.
I answered the question. Lets see you answer mine.

Sure.

https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/status

This doesnt include the 1600ish daily inbound connections that dont make it to clrghouz because they are polling more than 5 times an hour - which is what I implemented a little while ago.


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fusion wrote to Atreyu <=-

On 17 Jun 2026, Atreyu said the following...

I run nearly an identical setup with Windows servers and domain controllers, never once had any DNS or public-facing changes taking any longer than a few minutes. Wasn't a blip on anyones radar, and this runs
a Fidonet zone with hundreds of connections per day. Nobody cares and I do not care if they did.

"hundreds of connections a day" is like saying "i own a business" and
then showing off your lemonade stand

nice "look at me!" hardware gloat though

So, it's not just me that you're needlessly a dick to... good to know.

Do you feel better about yourself now?



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Is that true??? b/c yea, it was OFF for more than 4 hours - and... my o 'static' IP hadn't changed for 4 years - but it did yesterday. Had to c my DNS settings across two domain controllers.

It happens to me everytime we have a scheduled power outage of like 4 hours or more .... It might even be like 2 hours. It's a pain in the ass, I get it.

So... you know how ppl w/o static IPs use those various tools that update no matter when their IPs change - like... I think ddns.net, etc??

I wonder if I should run one even tho I do have a static - then even the once in a blue moon that Xfinity does feck w/ my IP everything would remain working??? I gotta check into that.



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On 19 Jun 26 10:38:13, Deon said the following to Atreyu:

https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/status

This doesnt include the 1600ish daily inbound connections that dont make it clrghouz because they are polling more than 5 times an hour - which is what implemented a little while ago.

I don't see a complete BinkD log dump posted like I did... am seeing just one page that says an average of "1,945 over 7 days". My log is detailed with around 3000 inbound connections in one day since there was a possibility that the next reply from that person could have been "Anyone can fake stats".

This isn't a comparison contest but since you in no way compare, care to justify your chiming-in with the snide comment? Or was it "because you can" ?

Atreyu

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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: Atreyu to Deon on Thu Jun 18 2026 09:21 pm

Howdy,

I don't see a complete BinkD log dump posted like I did... am seeing just one page that says an average of "1,945 over 7 days". My log is detailed with around 3000 inbound connections in one day since there was a possibility that the next reply from that person could have been "Anyone can fake stats".

This made me chuckle..

I dont use binkd, nor do I have a reason/desire to fake stats. The numbers come out of the DB and the page is refreshed daily.

And you quoted it incorrectly. It says "In the last 7 days, on average daily:". These numbers are based on connections that make it through to the mailer. There are 1600ish daily that dont make it through.

Does that help you?


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On 17 Jun 26 18:01:23, Paulie420 said the following to Exodus:

I wonder if I should run one even tho I do have a static - then even the onc in a blue moon that Xfinity does feck w/ my IP everything would remain working??? I gotta check into that.

Why not check into getting a contract with a business-grade ISP with an SLA who can properly assign you an address that will not change?

Atreyu

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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: paulie420 to Exodus on Wed Jun 17 2026 06:01 pm

Howdy,

I wonder if I should run one even tho I do have a static - then even the once in a blue moon that Xfinity does feck w/ my IP everything would remain working??? I gotta check into that.

Or run everything on a static internal network, and have a dynamic proxy layer that services the public internet...

My static layer is a 10/8 network (and intus), with my dynamic proxy layer is a mix of haproxy, caddy. I've used this successfully, even with a mobile hotspot, when my internet would go down daily because of major rail construction work that was going on nearby.

Ideas for you anyway...



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On 19 Jun 26 11:43:00, Deon said the following to Atreyu:

This made me chuckle..

I'm chuckling as well, watching both you and Fusion backpeddle. At least he exited the conversation gracefully. You on the other hand:

And you quoted it incorrectly. It says "In the last 7 days, on average daily:". These numbers are based on connections that make it through to the mailer. There are 1600ish daily that dont make it through.

Does that help you?

I just see one page. Stats. Not a 7 megabyte log file like I posted. The kind someone can have their fun looking at and "grep" it all they want to attempt
to find some fault with what I wrote to Paulie. There is none.

Nope, none of this explains your original snide comment.

Atreyu

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So... you know how ppl w/o static IPs use those various tools that update n matter when their IPs change - like... I think ddns.net, etc??

I wonder if I should run one even tho I do have a static - then even the on in a blue moon that Xfinity does feck w/ my IP everything would remain working??? I gotta check into that.

I ran one when google had my domain, but now that squarespace has it since google sold it, they don't offer a feature. So I manually have to go fix it on their site.

... The thrill of the chase is worth the pain.

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Xfinity FECKED me today - changed my 5 year static IP to something new, screwing up ALL my public facing projects...

Is/was it an actual STATIC IP that you pay specifically for? Otherwise,
it could just be a dynamic IP that rarely ever changes, unless the hardware does.

It WAS a dynamic - but damnit it was the same for 5+ years, GTFOH.

:P



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I think you're near the Portland, OR area? If so, maybe look into Ziply Fiber. I think their service has been pretty good, although a while ago
I heard they were basically acquired by Bell Canada, and since then
there have been some weird billing stuff.. But otherwise I've been
happy with them, and their internet service has been very good. One advantage of fiber is that you get the same speed for both download and upload, which is a benefit if you're running servers (which I know you are, for your BBS & such).

They definately don't have static IPs - the main reason I didn't switch on over...

They did have good deal a year+ ago - but thats long gone as of now. :P

Feck it, I <3 Xfinity?!?! Wait...



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If your "inside" network is consistent and static, but your "outside" network is dynamic, then anybody else who has (direct) access to your "inside" network are not affected by "outside" forces :)

Hopefully too you can reduce the blast radius when an outside event happens...

Always listening...
Thanks deon.



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Sorry to politely disagree, but find this to sound exaggerated. And perhaps if you want to avoid problems you should consider paying for an enterprise-grade ISP with an SLA and not have these amateur-hour
problems. Surely you can afford a dedicated circuit with all the donations you claim to receive?

I run nearly an identical setup with Windows servers and domain controllers, never once had any DNS or public-facing changes taking any longer than a few minutes. Wasn't a blip on anyones radar, and this runs
a Fidonet zone with hundreds of connections per day. Nobody cares and I do not care if they did.

Yer fine to think whatever you do - but I experienced what I did and it sucked..



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I wonder if I should run one even tho I do have a static - then even th in a blue moon that Xfinity does feck w/ my IP everything would remain working??? I gotta check into that.

Why not check into getting a contract with a business-grade ISP with an SLA who can properly assign you an address that will not change?

Can I borrow $300? Thanks @20ForBeers...



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I'm chuckling as well, watching both you and Fusion backpeddle. At least he exited the conversation gracefully. You on the other hand:

...you realize you're having a dick-measuring contest about who's serving the most text files, right?

Don't get me wrong; I'm glad you're doing the work to serve all the things, just like I'm glad that Deon is doing all the work to serve all the things.

But, seriously, why is this a dick-measuring contest on the topic? We can be glad for the work that any and all people are doing. It's a tiny hobby field, and anyone putting in the work to make the tiny hobby field a bit bigger has my appreciation.

(To be fair, it's _kind of_ entertaining, so don't let me stop you.)

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It WAS a dynamic - but damnit it was the same for 5+ years, GTFOH.

Now I'm wondering if we should feel bad for whomever wound up with that address, possibly wondering why so many connections were coming in on your normal ports.

(I'm guessing it's probably not different from the background noise, but the idea entertains me, like maybe someone in the 1990s winding up getting stuck with a former-BBS number after whatever waiting period.)

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On 18 Jun 26 23:02:42, Paulie420 said the following to Atreyu:

Why not check into getting a contract with a business-grade ISP with an SLA who can properly assign you an address that will not change?

Can I borrow $300? Thanks @20ForBeers...

You need $300 upfront to switch ISP's?

Atreyu

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On 19 Jun 26 08:08:50, Adept said the following to Atreyu:

...you realize you're having a dick-measuring contest about who's serving th most text files, right?

I provided simple proof for a claim that was ridiculed by two subject-matter idiots. Both backpeddled, one politely. End of story, end of thread.

Atreyu

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On 18 Jun 2026, Gamgee said the following...

So, it's not just me that you're needlessly a dick to... good to know.

Do you feel better about yourself now?

not really losing sleep

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On 17 Jun 2026, paulie420 said the following...

So... you know how ppl w/o static IPs use those various tools that
update no matter when their IPs change - like... I think ddns.net, etc??

I wonder if I should run one even tho I do have a static - then even the once in a blue moon that Xfinity does feck w/ my IP everything would remain working??? I gotta check into that.

even stuff that might not officially be intended for "dynamic DNS" should be possible. if you use digitalocean for DNS for example, you can just use the administration API to update the IP when it changes.

could probably use it for other cool stuff too :)

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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Thu Jun 18 2026 11:00 pm

I think you're near the Portland, OR area? If so, maybe look into Ziply
Fiber. I think their service has been pretty good, although a while ago I

They definately don't have static IPs - the main reason I didn't switch on over...

Eh? Their web site says they have static IPs: https://ziplyfiber.com/smallbusiness/internet

For that you may need to get a business plan though.. I used to work for a place that had a Ziply Fiber business service plan with a static IP address.
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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: Atreyu to Deon on Thu Jun 18 2026 09:52 pm

Howdy,

I just see one page. Stats. Not a 7 megabyte log file like I posted. The

Wow, a 7 meg log file, I'm wondering what I could do with one of those.

Nope, none of this explains your original snide comment.

There was no malos intended. I just thought it was funny that an enterprise setup that services 67 unique incoming IP address connections was compared to a lemonade stand. It made me immediately think of Paul Hogan and his movie.

Anyway Nick, I'll move on, it can be fun poking the bear, but not when the bear gets upset, then its mean.


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Hilarious... Are you related to Professor Jas Hud?

Id rather visit the Learing Center then :)

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On 20 Jun 26 10:42:11, Deon said the following to Atreyu:

There was no malos intended. I just thought it was funny that an enterprise setup that services 67 unique incoming IP address connections was compared t a lemonade stand. It made me immediately think of Paul Hogan and his movie.

What funnier is what happens when I randomly decide to take it offline, or if the nodelist is not up to certain expectations, or if I fart and Wilfred van Veltzen recites what I had for dinner.

The bear was never upset, only confused. Oh well.

Atreyu

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On 19 Jun 26 11:51:38, Matthew Munson said the following to Atreyu:

Hilarious... Are you related to Professor Jas Hud?

Id rather visit the Learing Center then :)

Someone recently asked an innocent question in the Fido SBBS echo about trying to get Golded to work and the resident Professor just had to chime in.

In less than a few messages he was pretty much flamed all the way to Mars.

Its tempting to send him a thank-you gift, for all the laughs he provides.

Atreyu

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Someone recently asked an innocent question in the Fido SBBS echo about trying to get Golded to work and the resident Professor just had to
chime in.

There is a config file that helps load the message base settings. When I used to run Synchronet BBS software i used it on my golded.cfg

AREAFILE Synchronet C:\SBBS\CTRL\

+ KO6GVD - Ontario, California - Winserver and WWIV BBS Operator

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On 19 Jun 26 19:12:37, Utopian Galt said the following to Atreyu:

Someone recently asked an innocent question in the Fido SBBS echo abou trying to get Golded to work and the resident Professor just had to chime in.

There is a config file that helps load the message base settings. When I us to run Synchronet BBS software i used it on my golded.cfg

Yup... I'm not a Synchronet guy but know a bit about Golded...

Atreyu

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It WAS a dynamic - but damnit it was the same for 5+ years, GTFOH.

Now I'm wondering if we should feel bad for whomever wound up with that address, possibly wondering why so many connections were coming in on
your normal ports.

(I'm guessing it's probably not different from the background noise, but the idea entertains me, like maybe someone in the 1990s winding up
getting stuck with a former-BBS number after whatever waiting period.)

:P I hope someone got it who at least could SEE the connections - prolly just a normal joe who wondered why the extra 50 ATDTs were connecting each day.



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Why not check into getting a contract with a business-grade ISP wi SLA who can properly assign you an address that will not change?

Can I borrow $300? Thanks @20ForBeers...

You need $300 upfront to switch ISP's?

No - but its what it costs to switch from normal to business accounts. I don't need to borrow $300. :P



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So... you know how ppl w/o static IPs use those various tools that update no matter when their IPs change - like... I think ddns.net, et

I wonder if I should run one even tho I do have a static - then even once in a blue moon that Xfinity does feck w/ my IP everything would remain working??? I gotta check into that.

even stuff that might not officially be intended for "dynamic DNS"
should be possible. if you use digitalocean for DNS for example, you can just use the administration API to update the IP when it changes.
could probably use it for other cool stuff too :)

Hmmmmmm... I'll have to p0ke around. :P



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They definately don't have static IPs - the main reason I didn't swit over...

Eh? Their web site says they have static IPs: https://ziplyfiber.com/smallbusiness/internet

For that you may need to get a business plan though.. I used to work
for a place that had a Ziply Fiber business service plan with a static

Yea - they do IF you get a business account.



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...you realize you're having a dick-measuring contest about who's servi most text files, right?

I provided simple proof for a claim that was ridiculed by two subject-matter idiots. Both backpeddled, one politely. End of story, end of thread.

You mentioned getting a lot of requests.

One "subject-matter idiot" claimed that that was not a lot of requests, because text files just aren't.

Another "subject-matter idiot" claimed that you get way fewer requests than he does.

As far as I read, no one doubted your claim; they doubted how impressive it was.

So, honestly, I'm more confused than anything, as it's appearing to me as if you were reading a different conversation than what I read.

Maybe I missed some messages due to a twit filter.

But, eh, as you say:

End of story, end of thread.

...as, again, I'm glad for whatever people do for BBSing, regardless of how much or how little any person is doing.

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:P I hope someone got it who at least could SEE the connections - prolly just a normal joe who wondered why the extra 50 ATDTs were connecting
each day.

Yeah.

And It would be even more entertaining if, by some improbable miracle, it was someone else who was running a BBS on the appropriate ports.

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No - but its what it costs to switch from normal to business accounts. I don't need to borrow $300. :P

I mean, I'm guessing you wouldn't _mind_ another $300 to cover another ServerPartsDeals order.

Always more data to gather, and stupid companies making it expensive...

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On 20 Jun 26 10:12:40, Adept said the following to Atreyu:

You mentioned getting a lot of requests.

One "subject-matter idiot" claimed that that was not a lot of requests, because text files just aren't.

The subject-matter idiot did not count the nearly 3,000 connects, just tried to pull a Jas Hud when I responded to his stupid comment with plain facts.

It was not simple for that person to just press CTL+F in the browser to get
a quick answer; that someone had to show off with being a techno-dick with
the stupid Linux commands that ended up avoiding my question. Idiot indeed.

Now you inexplicably attempt to defend this after the fact.

And please... kindly show me where I said text-files. I'm confused where you conjured up that nonsense from. Show me where I said anything beyond connects.

I shared a simple logfile and the mental-gymnastics peformances you three put on here is astounding. Linux appears to be the common factor I notice?

Atreyu

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No - but its what it costs to switch from normal to business accounts don't need to borrow $300. :P

I mean, I'm guessing you wouldn't _mind_ another $300 to cover another ServerPartsDeals order.

Dude - I'm actually CURRENTLY waiting to place a ServerPartsDeals order b/c HDDs are like 3x what I paid a couple years ago.


We're funded, but since the current NAS is sitting at 82% I figure it can only get better... so I'm not pressing BUY on freaking $400 18TB HDDs just yet!! :P



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Re: Re: XFinity/Comcast
By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Fri Jun 19 2026 11:34 pm

For that you may need to get a business plan though.. I used to work for
a place that had a Ziply Fiber business service plan with a static

Yea - they do IF you get a business account.

Do you actually need a static IP? If so, then getting a business account would probably be your only solution. I thought it's probably the same way with any ISP..
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Now you inexplicably attempt to defend this after the fact.

...*sigh*.

Not what I was doing, but clearly whatever I _was_ attempting to do was not accomplishing anything.

Sorry, all.

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Adept wrote to Atreyu <=-

Now you inexplicably attempt to defend this after the fact.

...*sigh*.

Well... he's not lying.

Not what I was doing, but clearly whatever I _was_ attempting to do was not accomplishing anything.

That is VERY true.


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On 20 Jun 2026, Atreyu said the following...

The subject-matter idiot did not count the nearly 3,000 connects, just tried to pull a Jas Hud when I responded to his stupid comment with
plain facts.

3000 connections a day is not a lot

supporting only 67 unique users is not a lot

180mb total xfer a day is NOT a lot

a $3 VPS would be more than sufficient to provide this level of service.

the point of the sarcasm was that you were recommending dropping a LOT
more money to do so very little. the whole conversation should have been "just configure dynamic DNS"

but instead you wanted to make sure people know all about your enterprise grade setup. yes i'm very happy for you. you waste your money however you
please. but again, you're doing about as much work as a lemonade stand.

It was not simple for that person to just press CTL+F in the browser to get a quick answer; that someone had to show off with being a
techno-dick with the stupid Linux commands that ended up avoiding my question. Idiot indeed.

name calling? ;)

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On 21 Jun 2026, Gamgee said the following...

Adept wrote to Atreyu <=-

Now you inexplicably attempt to defend this after the fact.

...*sigh*.

Well... he's not lying.

Not what I was doing, but clearly whatever I _was_ attempting to do w not accomplishing anything.

That is VERY true.

i remember you specifically posting once that there was a group of people on dovenet. one was the 'leader' that would post.. and then his little lap dogs would chime in with meaningless posts to try and back him up.

nice little meaningless post you've got there.

you've basically done the text equivalent of "thumbs-upping" a facebook message.

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On 21 Jun 26 12:20:45, Fusion said the following to Atreyu:

3000 connections a day is not a lot

You thought I was bullshitting when I questioned your friend, you were wrong.

the point of the sarcasm was that you were recommending dropping a LOT
more money to do so very little. the whole conversation should have been "ju

The Sysop you and others inexplicably keep defending was making noise about how emotionally turbulent it was to change DNS settings after his IP pulled a switcharoo... I recommended a business-class connection.

The difference in price between a residental and buisness connection cannot
be that much. Maybe your friend can go without 420 and beers a few times? If thats out of the question then help him chase his tail with dynamic IP.

But the Sysop you and others keep defending is soliciting donations and has a goal of buying a Dell 730 with 5x18tb drives... for his BBS... How this goes over your head is astounding. You tell ME why would someone need that type of stuff... methinks it ain't for his board and certainly not for his callers.

Hilarious. Next time wear the appropriate attire for mental gymnastics.

Atreyu

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Do you actually need a static IP? If so, then getting a business
account would probably be your only solution. I thought it's probably
the same way with any ISP..

I don't NEED one, but it sure does make things easier on all the public facing things... the more I dug thru my Xfinity account, I notice I don't have STATIC IP gauranteed - but... I've had this Xfinity account for around 7 years and the IP has NEVER changed until last week. Even thru a home move - hopefully it'll stick around that long this time.

I'm looking into some options to auto-catch changes in the future anyway. :P



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