• bitcoin blackmail

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to All on Monday, November 24, 2025 03:24:21
    apparently someone has hacked into my camera which i don't have plugged
    in and they need what amounts to 87,000+ usd in bitcoin.

    apparently i have been masturbating in the bathroom and infront of my
    computer and even now they have accesss and since reading this email i have
    48 hrs to repond or my dead grandmother will see my videos.

    please advise!


    i wonder if they even get money from people doing this shit.
    i like using aliases so i see what sites get compromised.
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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to MRO on Monday, November 24, 2025 13:04:00
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: MRO to All on Mon Nov 24 2025 03:24:21

    apparently someone has hacked into my camera which i don't have plugged in and they need what amounts to 87,000+ usd in bitcoin.

    apparently i have been masturbating in the bathroom and infront of my computer and even now they have accesss and since reading this email i have 48 hrs to repond or my dead grandmother will see my videos.

    please advise!

    i wonder if they even get money from people doing this shit. i like using aliases so i see what sites get compromised.

    not sure if they use one address to receive the ransom only. If so, you can check the address if others have paid.

    I can't count anymore how many emails of this kind i have gotten =)
    The best defence is using your brain.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Monday, November 24, 2025 10:04:25
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Mon Nov 24 2025 01:04 pm

    I can't count anymore how many emails of this kind i have gotten =) The best defence is using your brain.

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Monday, November 24, 2025 21:26:00
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 10:04:25

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Thats what you get for giving all your data to google ;)

    Beside proton i am with GMX.net for email and their SpamFilter is okish. The problem that i have, the filter often overrules my whitelist entries. So even if i say a certain sender should always be accepted as valid, emails from this sender are still filtered out sometimes.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Monday, November 24, 2025 13:47:56
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to Nightfox on Mon Nov 24 2025 09:26 pm

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that
    can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this
    anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check
    my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Thats what you get for giving all your data to google ;)

    I'm not sure what you mean..? You make spam filtering sound like a negative. The auto spam filter means I don't have to spend my own time looking at spam emails and deleting them, and I don't know how that would be a negative..

    Nightfox

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 00:23:00
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 13:47:56

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that
    can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this
    anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check
    my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Thats what you get for giving all your data to google ;)

    I'm not sure what you mean..? You make spam filtering sound like a negative. The auto spam filter means I don't have to spend my own time looking at spam emails and deleting them, and I don't know how that would be a negative..

    Just saying, google can develop very effective tools (spam filters) cause it has full access to millions of emails. i like efective spam filters! just pointing out that google can access a huge dataset to train their filters and that makes it potentially very effective.

    It is the same with google maps. when you use it in your car as a route planner, you act as a live google sensor. Its a give and take. You just have to be aware of it, that you pay with your data at free and paid google services.

    Its all good and no issue if you don't mind sharing all your data =)
    I do use google maps also and other google services, but where possible i try to slowly degoogle the services i use.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Monday, November 24, 2025 16:44:55
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to Nightfox on Tue Nov 25 2025 12:23 am

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that
    can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this
    anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check
    my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Thats what you get for giving all your data to google ;)

    I'm not sure what you mean..? You make spam filtering sound like a
    negative. The auto spam filter means I don't have to spend my own time
    looking at spam emails and deleting them, and I don't know how that would
    be a negative..

    Just saying, google can develop very effective tools (spam filters) cause it has full access to millions of emails. i like efective spam filters! just pointing out that google can access a huge dataset to train their filters and that makes it potentially very effective.

    Its all good and no issue if you don't mind sharing all your data =) I do

    True, though I've hoped it's only trained on the emails that people have marked as spam, rather than using all your data. :)

    It is the same with google maps. when you use it in your car as a route planner, you act as a live google sensor. Its a give and take. You just have to be aware of it, that you pay with your data at free and paid google services.

    Yeah, I normally have my phone's location setting turned off, as I'd just rather not have any people or apps tracking where I am, and generally I don't feel a need to do that. I only turn it on when I actually need to - Sometimes I do use Google Maps for directions, especially when I'm walking somewhere. In my car, often I like to use my car stereo's built-in GPS maps app, as I feel like that's more convenient. My car stereo does support Android Auto (and Apple Car Play), but it's not wireless for that; I have to plug my phone into my car via USB to use its maps app on my car stereo (and I don't have a phone holder in my car).

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mindsurfer on Monday, November 24, 2025 22:50:14
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Mon Nov 24 2025 01:04 pm

    not sure if they use one address to receive the ransom only. If so,
    you can check the address if others have paid.

    yeah it uses bitcoin so i guess you can see the transactions.

    I can't count anymore how many emails of this kind i have gotten
    =) The best defence is using your brain.


    unfortunately there are some people that fall for this shit.
    at times they appeared to be intelligent people.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mindsurfer on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 08:19:14
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: MRO to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 10:50 pm

    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Mon Nov 24 2025 01:04 pm

    not sure if they use one address to receive the ransom only. If so,
    you can check the address if others have paid.


    yeah i just checked the address and i guess business is bad for the whackoff cam blackmailer.
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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 04:06:26
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 10:04 am

    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Mon Nov 24 2025 01:04 pm

    I can't count anymore how many emails of this kind i have gotten =) The best defence is using your brain.

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore,

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base. Fuck Google. After 20+ years of gmail, I guess I need to start using my Proton address...

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Bf2k+ on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 05:57:41
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06 am

    decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base. Fuck Google. Af 20+ years of gmail, I guess I need to start using my Proton address...

    Screw Internet email as whole! Anyone I want to contact by email I can reach via BBSes ;).

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 08:00:13
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: MRO to All on Mon Nov 24 2025 03:24 am

    i wonder if they even get money from people doing this shit.
    i like using aliases so i see what sites get compromised.

    Yes, they do get a profit. If you monitor their wallet address you can often see money getting dumped into it.

    Scammers suck and deserve to die, but people who falls for this also suck and deserve to die. Nothing to see here.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 08:04:18
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 10:04 am

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore,

    I am an email service administrator and end users rarely get these either on my systems. It is not like Google has a monopoly on smap filtering. I still get to read a lot of spam that is sent to quarantine and it is a source for giggles.

    Some of these motherfuckers are actually quite good, on the other hand. Carpet bombing like wank-blackmail is lame, but some targetted attacks are impressive these days.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 08:07:04
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 04:44 pm


    True, though I've hoped it's only trained on the emails that people have marked as spam, rather than using all your data. :)


    You can bet their filtering goes throughout all of your data.

    Heck, my own spam filters get trained on both data marked as spam and on good data.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 09:59:36
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Arelor to MRO on Wed Nov 26 2025 08:00 am

    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: MRO to All on Mon Nov 24 2025 03:24 am

    i wonder if they even get money from people doing this shit. i like
    using aliases so i see what sites get compromised.

    Yes, they do get a profit. If you monitor their wallet address
    you can often see money getting dumped into it.

    Scammers suck and deserve to die, but people who falls for this also
    suck and deserve to die. Nothing to see here.


    well the one i checked on is pretty broke.
    what i hate is how these sites are compromised and get my information. most of the time they dont even inform us.
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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to MRO on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 18:04:00
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Nov 26 2025 09:59:36

    well the one i checked on is pretty broke. what i hate is how these sites are compromised and get my information. most of the time they dont even inform us.

    i am pretty sure 80% of what is reaching me by mail and phone is from the ledger.com leak in 2020.
    So what would actually help would be forwarding services for everything. snail mail, email and phone. when you have to give out information, you use the forwarder services data only. Well, i don't know if you can do that for your street address or phone easily, but where it is possible is for email.

    if you would never give away your actual email address but a single use forwarder always, you could just delete your forwarder email and use a different one in case it got compromised. Right?

    Mindsurfer

    ps: note to myself, check out email forwarding services ;)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bf2k+ on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 09:40:47
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06 am

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base. Fuck Google. After 20+ years of gmail, I guess I need to start using my Proton address...

    I'd heard about things Google may be doing to collect data. I should probably get serious about trying other email services, and I may try Proton..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 09:41:26
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 08:04 am

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can
    detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore,

    I am an email service administrator and end users rarely get these either on my systems. It is not like Google has a monopoly on smap filtering. I still get to read a lot of spam that is sent to quarantine and it is a source for giggles.

    Yeah, I didn't say Google was the only one. I just meant Google's seems to work fairly well.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Bf2k+ on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 14:45:06
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06:26

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base.

    Can you be more specific? I've used Gmail for at least 20 years and have been nothing but satisfied with it's performance. I've experienced nothing that would imply Google's doing anything nefarious.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mindsurfer on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 23:32:13
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Wed Nov 26 2025 06:04 pm

    if you would never give away your actual email address but a single
    use forwarder always, you could just delete your forwarder email
    and use a different one in case it got compromised. Right?


    Well that's why i keep my bbs up. i just use email aliases. so i know when
    a site is compromised because i get a funny email to mynamemyspace@domain.

    I think the bigger problem is these sites have poor security and have had
    poor security for decades and they are not held accountable.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mortar on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 23:33:57
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mortar to Bf2k+ on Wed Nov 26 2025 02:45 pm

    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06:26

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail
    has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base.

    Can you be more specific? I've used Gmail for at least 20 years
    and have been nothing but satisfied with it's performance.
    I've experienced nothing that would imply Google's doing anything
    nefarious.



    google will read your txts, use audio recordings, read your emails,etc to get your information for whatever end.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Mortar on Thursday, November 27, 2025 10:01:31
    Mortar wrote to Bf2k+ <=-

    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06:26

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base.

    Can you be more specific? I've used Gmail for at least 20 years and
    have been nothing but satisfied with it's performance. I've
    experienced nothing that would imply Google's doing anything nefarious.

    MalwareBytes ran an article that Gmail users were opted-in to Gemini
    training, but it appears that it was poorly worded. You're opting in to
    mail scanning for "smart features", including auto-complete. Seeing as
    they're bsing accused in a lawsuit for doing that exact thing, uit's
    easy to see the confusion.

    https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2025/11/gmail-is-reading-your-emails-and-attachments-to-train-its-ai-unless-you-turn-it-off


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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Mortar on Friday, November 28, 2025 00:00:29
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mortar to Bf2k+ on Wed Nov 26 2025 02:45 pm

    nothing but satisfied with it's performance. I've experienced nothing that would imply Google's doing anything nefarious.

    You didn't experience the removal of the "Don't be evil" rule?

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