• Re: Bbsing

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 14:25:01
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bf2k+ on Tue Feb 17 2026 06:55 am

    Bf2k+ wrote to Denn <=-

    Re: Re: Bbsing By: Denn to Gamgee on Sun Feb 15 2026 02:58 pm

    The left is opposed to voter ID because they believe 85% of illegal's will vote in their favor.

    There's plenty of stupid 'real Americans' who will also...

    There's never been a presidential election swayed by illegal voting.
    There's more at work here.


    if i didn't know this guy for 20 years i'd swear he's a bot.


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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to MRO on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 17:22:00
    On 17 Feb 2026, MRO said the following...

    if i didn't know this guy for 20 years i'd swear he's a bot.

    most of the responses are the same. an example of the message template:

    when pF posts, something is off - as if he were a robot.

    or

    when father came home it was lights out - no more television.

    very strange wording every single time.
    something's amiss.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to fusion on Wednesday, February 18, 2026 02:32:36
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: fusion to MRO on Tue Feb 17 2026 05:22 pm

    On 17 Feb 2026, MRO said the following...

    if i didn't know this guy for 20 years i'd swear he's a bot.

    most of the responses are the same. an example of the message
    template:

    when pF posts, something is off - as if he were a robot.

    or

    when father came home it was lights out - no more television.

    very strange wording every single time. something's amiss.

    he talks like some facebook/instagram bot.
    it doesn't even seem like he has conversations. he's like a guy in an insane asylum having a conversation with a wall. he name drops old tech and stuff about punchcards. or talking about using wifi in a coffee house all the
    time.

    he was my feed for a msg net and his uptime was horrible. then later he was the feed for a buddy of mine and same issue.

    it's hard to believe he's a manager, i honestly think he has some touch of dementia.

    notice on his website on the bottom he's using a hispanic guy in a hoody as his photo.
    https://www.kurtweiske.com/about/

    on his twitter he looks even more like some bot
    https://x.com/poindexter


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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wednesday, February 18, 2026 08:09:00
    While the number of people released is historically high, it does not
    reach the 15 million mark mentioned in some political discourse.

    So the claim in inaccurate but the facts are still "historically" not
    good. ;)

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  • From Robert Wolfe@VERT/KLYNTAR to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wednesday, February 18, 2026 09:19:00
    The premise is invalid. You need to show proof of citizenship *and* residency when registering to vote.

    When I went to get my Real-ID drivers license I had my passport with me,
    ready to show.

    A non-citizen wouldn't be able to register to vote with just a DL - and photo ID is required the first time you vote, at least that's how it's
    done in my state.

    Same here, but every time I vote we have to show our photo ID.
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  • From Robert Wolfe@VERT/KLYNTAR to PHIGAN on Wednesday, February 18, 2026 09:20:00
    always thought that my vote didn't count.

    What made you change your mind?

    Would rather not start a heated political debate here, so I will take
    the 5th on that one.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Robert Wolfe on Wednesday, February 18, 2026 14:19:53
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Robert Wolfe to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Feb 18 2026 09:19 am


    A non-citizen wouldn't be able to register to vote with just a DL -
    and photo ID is required the first time you vote, at least that's
    how it's done in my state.

    Same here, but every time I vote we have to show our photo ID.


    in my state when you register in person you show photo id and then a utility bill to prove you live in that area. then every time you show id and they look you up in the book.


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  • From Utopian Galt@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, February 20, 2026 21:14:14
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bf2k+ on Tue Feb 17 2026 06:55 am

    There's never been a presidential election swayed by illegal voting. There's more at work here.
    The 1960 election would like to say something.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Utopian Galt on Saturday, February 21, 2026 01:02:47
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Utopian Galt to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Feb 20 2026 0

    Re: Re: Bbsing By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bf2k+ on Tue Feb 17 2026
    06:55 am

    There's never been a presidential election swayed by illegal voting. There's more at work here.
    The 1960 election would like to say something.

    also we have several examples of voter fraud on paper, on camera and with
    first hand witnesses.

    if you look on poindexer's twitter you see he's too busy deep throating
    gavin to see past his balls.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Utopian Galt on Saturday, February 21, 2026 08:54:51
    Utopian Galt wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bf2k+ on Tue Feb 17 2026 06:55 am

    There's never been a presidential election swayed by illegal voting. There's more at work here.

    The 1960 election would like to say something.

    I meant "people in this country illegally" voting. Point taken about
    the 1960 election, however.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, February 21, 2026 19:20:28
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Utopian Galt on Sat Feb 21 2026 0

    There's more at work here.

    The 1960 election would like to say something.

    I meant "people in this country illegally" voting. Point taken about
    the 1960 election, however.


    yeah that happened too. people went to court over it.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Saturday, February 21, 2026 19:36:22
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Sat Feb 14 2026 09:01 am

    >
    I didn't realize people were complaining about having to show an ID to vote. But I think one of the problems I've noticed, at least in some states (including mine), is that a state-issued driver's license can be accepted to vote, and you don't need to be a US citizen to get a driver's license in the state. So that means there could be non-citizens voting. In order to vote, I'd think they should require ID that proves you're a citizen, such as a passport, social security card, etc..

    In Spain, voters are pre-registered. This means each voting table has a list of people who is allowed to vote at that table. In order to vote you need to show up with your National Identity Card and they check you and your card are in that list before they let you vote.

    National Identity Card is an "existence tax" and it is mandatory to have past a given age. It also has a cryptographical chip with a certificate for use for signing and online banking and such.

    I hate the fact it is mandatory for existing but the idea of voting tables that don't perform verifications is bananas. In fact the reason why so many people were wary of the Catanolian independence referendum was there was no verification mechanism in place so there was no way to guarantee people was not voting more than once at different tables.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, February 21, 2026 21:24:36
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

    Utopian Galt wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bf2k+ on Tue Feb 17 2026 06:55 am

    There's never been a presidential election swayed by illegal voting. There's more at work here.

    The 1960 election would like to say something.

    I meant "people in this country illegally" voting. Point taken about
    the 1960 election, however.

    Well.... do you think they would tell us if there was illegal voting
    these days? Because I don't think they would.



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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Utopian Galt on Sunday, February 22, 2026 10:35:36
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Utopian Galt to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Feb 20 2026 09:14 pm

    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bf2k+ on Tue Feb 17 2026 06:55 am

    There's never been a presidential election swayed by illegal voting. There's more at work here.
    The 1960 election would like to say something.

    As would the state of GA in 2020...

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  • From MIKE POWELL@VERT/CAPCITY2/UUMOES to GAMGEE on Sunday, February 22, 2026 09:04:00
    Well.... do you think they would tell us if there was illegal voting
    these days? Because I don't think they would.

    I think they would if (1) they had hard evidence and (2) the voting was
    not going in their party's favor.

    So, if they know and it is benefiting them, they damn sure aren't going to tell you about it.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Bf2k+ on Sunday, February 22, 2026 16:57:01
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Bf2k+ to Utopian Galt on Sun Feb 22 2026 10:35 am

    As would the state of GA in 2020...

    Again, I meant to say illegal aliens voting.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, February 22, 2026 23:16:15
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bf2k+ on Sun Feb 22 2026 04:57 pm

    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Bf2k+ to Utopian Galt on Sun Feb 22 2026 10:35 am

    As would the state of GA in 2020...

    Again, I meant to say illegal aliens voting.



    you people are supposed to say UNDOCUMENTED TAX PAYER


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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, February 24, 2026 06:03:39
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bf2k+ on Sun Feb 22 2026 04:57 pm

    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Bf2k+ to Utopian Galt on Sun Feb 22 2026 10:35 am

    As would the state of GA in 2020...

    Again, I meant to say illegal aliens voting.

    I know you meant that. My comment was more based on illegal activities during voting...

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  • From Jim Singleton@VERT/RICKSBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, February 27, 2026 13:16:02
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Jim Singleton on Wed Feb 04 2026 03:13 pm

    Jim Singleton wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I remember having a cigarette vending machine in our cafeteria at work and being able to smoke at my desk at work in this time period.

    My first boss, in the early '90s, used to regale us of stories of "work used to be". Smoking rooms, a "shine boy" for your shoes, coffee carts going from office to office. No voicemail, there were "the girls" in an office behind the front desk that wrote down messages and put them up at the front desk.

    Odd to think that he was about the same age I am now.

    "Why, in my day, we didn't have email, if something was important, you'd send a FAX!"


    ... Socks are carcinogenic.

    we still use fax for a few things even today.
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  • From Jim Singleton@VERT/RICKSBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, February 27, 2026 13:18:34
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Jim Singleton on Sun Feb 08 2026 08:53 am

    Jim Singleton wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    We still use a fax machine/copier in my office from time to time.

    I'm going through a thing at work where half of the older employees are pushing to upgrade our multi-function printers, the other half wonder
    why they're bothering.

    I do like being able to scan paper copy to PDFs, though.
    i often think we are using more paper now than ever.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Jim Singleton on Saturday, February 28, 2026 08:28:13
    Jim Singleton wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I do like being able to scan paper copy to PDFs, though.
    i often think we are using more paper now than ever.

    Hard no.

    At my first job, we had a midrange computer managing ordering, sales,
    inventory, accounting and GL for a university bookstore We had
    terminals for sales lookups and ordering, but most of the business ran
    on the reams of greenbar 11x17 paper reports I printed out after store
    closing and distributed to mailboxes for morning pickup.

    I mentioned earlier that I'm involved in office moves and setups, my
    team handles IT. We had half of a new office asking to not move the
    printer, the office head, who's my age, insisted that we get the
    printer set up ASAP.



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  • From Jim Singleton@VERT/RICKSBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, March 05, 2026 06:34:15
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Jim Singleton on Sat Feb 28 2026 08:28 am

    Jim Singleton wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I do like being able to scan paper copy to PDFs, though.
    i often think we are using more paper now than ever.

    Hard no.

    At my first job, we had a midrange computer managing ordering, sales,
    inventory, accounting and GL for a university bookstore We had
    terminals for sales lookups and ordering, but most of the business ran
    on the reams of greenbar 11x17 paper reports I printed out after store
    closing and distributed to mailboxes for morning pickup.

    I mentioned earlier that I'm involved in office moves and setups, my
    team handles IT. We had half of a new office asking to not move the
    printer, the office head, who's my age, insisted that we get the
    printer set up ASAP.
    First get the computer side working then get that printer up and printing. I can remember a time when the single printer we had at work failed and I was sent out to a local 'computer store' immediately with cash to get a new one. That day.
    Jim Singleton
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  • From chris dick@VERT/WCCASTLE to fusion on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 10:08:39
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: fusion to MIKE POWELL on Sun Feb 08 2026 05:41 am

    i persoanly think the whole real id thing is kind of dumb IMO ... far as im concerned my state issued drivers license / id is a real form of id but now i need a new card with a stamp in the corner that says its real ? idk just kind of dumb ....

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to chris dick on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 07:47:01
    chris dick wrote to fusion <=-

    i persoanly think the whole real id thing is kind of dumb IMO ... far
    as im concerned my state issued drivers license / id is a real form of
    id but now i need a new card with a stamp in the corner that says its
    real ? idk just kind of dumb ....

    I think years ago that the states should have agreed on a common format
    for drivers licenses, but the rollout of REAL ID has felt overbearing
    and heavy-handed here.

    It's totally fair for law enforcement and TSA to have some commonality
    between license formats.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to chris dick on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 09:55:54
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: chris dick to fusion on Tue Jul 07 2026 10:08 am

    i persoanly think the whole real id thing is kind of dumb IMO ... far as im concerned my state issued drivers license / id is a real form of id but now i need a new card with a stamp in the corner that says its real ? idk just kind of dumb ....

    I've heard that if you have a passport, you don't need a Real ID, and you can use your passport instead.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to chris dick on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 23:01:00
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: fusion to MIKE POWELL on Sun Feb 08 2026 05:41 am

    i persoanly think the whole real id thing is kind of dumb IMO ... far as im concerned my state issued drivers license / id is a real form of id but now i
    need a new card with a stamp in the corner that says its real ? idk just kind
    of dumb ....

    Agree. When it came time to renew my state drivers license, as I also had a valid passport at the time, I opted not to spend extra for a "Real ID."



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 23:15:00
    I think years ago that the states should have agreed on a common format
    for drivers licenses, but the rollout of REAL ID has felt overbearing
    and heavy-handed here.

    Agree on both counts. In some states, like mine, the county court clerks were responsible for issuing the physical licenses. When the Feds forced Real ID, it
    overwhelmed their offices because people wanting one couldn't, or refused to, follow the simple directions that the state had been broadcasting for months, and some of the smaller counties didn't have the extra manpower resources to deal with the new requirements.

    So, while the largest urban area in the state still has multiple offices, the rest of the state only has regional offices which require appointments and
    can be burdensome to get to.

    The state did their best to make it less heavy-handed but it did not work out.

    It's totally fair for law enforcement and TSA to have some commonality between license formats.


    Agree, so long as they are mostly uniform but also still handled on the state level.


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 18:14:57
    Hey Dumas!

    On Thu, 09 Jul 2026 04:01:00 , you wrote:

    Agree. When it came time to renew my state drivers license, as I also
    had a valid passport at the time, I opted not to spend extra for a "Real ID."

    My wife did the same. We just took a trip to Florida for volleyball nationals. She got pulled out of the TSA line, and had to buy a $45 pass to fly for a week since she didn't have one, and I did. I don't think she thinks the $10 more for a real ID is all that bad any more. :)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, July 09, 2026 05:22:14
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to chris dick on Wed Jul 08 2026 07:47 am

    chris dick wrote to fusion <=-

    i persoanly think the whole real id thing is kind of dumb IMO ... far
    as im concerned my state issued drivers license / id is a real form of id but now i need a new card with a stamp in the corner that says its real ? idk just kind of dumb ....

    I think years ago that the states should have agreed on a common format
    for drivers licenses, but the rollout of REAL ID has felt overbearing
    and heavy-handed here.

    It's totally fair for law enforcement and TSA to have some commonality between license formats.




    i don't think it's that they want a 'common format'; it's more of an upgraded Format for domestic flights and federal facilities.

    There's really no need for it. They are just making it a need.
    For federal facilities they have provided other credentials.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Thursday, July 09, 2026 20:59:00
    i persoanly think the whole real id thing is kind of dumb IMO ... far as
    im concerned my state issued drivers license / id is a real form of id but
    now i need a new card with a stamp in the corner that says its real ? idk
    just kind of dumb ....

    I've heard that if you have a passport, you don't need a Real ID, and you can use your passport instead.

    That is why I didn't get a Real ID as I already have a passport. IIRC, the passport is good enough for most things but there may have been something I would still be restricted from doing without it. Whatever it was, it must have been something I didn't care to do.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Accession on Thursday, July 09, 2026 21:04:00
    On Thu, 09 Jul 2026 04:01:00 , you wrote:

    Agree. When it came time to renew my state drivers license, as I also had a valid passport at the time, I opted not to spend extra for a "Real ID."

    My wife did the same. We just took a trip to Florida for volleyball nationals. She got pulled out of the TSA line, and had to buy a $45 pass to fly for a week since she didn't have one, and I did. I don't think she thinks the $10 more for a real ID is all that bad any more. :)


    Did she have a valid passport? At the time I renewed, flying was one thing a valid passport was supposed to allow without issues or extra cost. Also, IIRC, in this state the difference was > $10 when I renewed. Since I rarely fly, and planned to keep my passport valid, I didn't feel it necessary.

    Sounds like maybe they are trying now to strongarm the Real ID.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, July 09, 2026 21:16:00
    i don't think it's that they want a 'common format'; it's more of an upgraded Format for domestic flights and federal facilities.

    There's really no need for it. They are just making it a need.
    For federal facilities they have provided other credentials.

    Agree. I think it is more for assisting them in keeping track of us.


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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, July 09, 2026 11:02:10
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to chris dick on Wed Jul 08 2026 07:47 am

    for drivers licenses, but the rollout of REAL ID has felt overbearing
    and heavy-handed here.

    There's already a passport, and it works for more things. Screw that real ID shit. The passport is a little bit bigger, but big deal.. makes you feel like you're back in Communist Russia or something.

    PAPERS PLEASE!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thursday, July 09, 2026 16:01:09
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Dumas Walker to Accession on Thu Jul 09 2026 09:04 pm

    On Thu, 09 Jul 2026 04:01:00 , you wrote:

    Agree. When it came time to renew my state drivers license, as I also
    had a valid passport at the time, I opted not to spend extra for a
    "Real ID."

    My wife did the same. We just took a trip to Florida for volleyball nationals. She got pulled out of the TSA line, and had to buy a $45 pass
    to fly for a week since she didn't have one, and I did. I don't think she thinks the $10 more for a real ID is all that bad any more. :)


    Did she have a valid passport? At the time I renewed, flying was one thing a > valid passport was supposed to allow without issues or extra cost. Also,
    IIRC, in this state the difference was > $10 when I renewed. Since I rarely fly, and planned to keep my passport valid, I didn't feel it necessary.

    Sounds like maybe they are trying now to strongarm the Real ID.

    In our state(nicks and mine) you can get it for the same price of renewing.
    i saw a photo. it looks the same as our drivers license but there's a star on It.

    Https://wisconsindot.gov/PublishingImages/dmv/shared/dl-2022-o21.jpg

    Is there a chip with more info?
    Not sure. I don't think it's worth it.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Thursday, July 09, 2026 17:29:39
    Hey Dumas!

    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 02:04:00 , you wrote:

    Did she have a valid passport?

    No.

    At the time I renewed, flying was one thing a valid passport was
    supposed to allow without issues or extra cost. Also, IIRC, in this
    state the difference was > $10 when I renewed. Since I rarely fly, and planned to keep my passport valid, I didn't feel it necessary.

    That is still the case here. However, we never leave the country so have no need for passports. We both renewed our licenses the same year. It was assumed we both had real IDs, but apparantly she didn't check the right box. :/

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Friday, July 10, 2026 21:14:00
    In our state(nicks and mine) you can get it for the same price of renewing. i saw a photo. it looks the same as our drivers license but there's a star on It.

    Https://wisconsindot.gov/PublishingImages/dmv/shared/dl-2022-o21.jpg

    Ours look mostly the same now, too. Back when I renewed my license in 2019, I want
    to say the Real ID was about twice as much as the regular license, which had gone
    up quite a bit because they made it look like the Real ID (but with the "NOT FOR
    REAL ID" text added at the top).

    Is there a chip with more info?
    Not sure. I don't think it's worth it.

    I don't think it is, either.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Accession on Friday, July 10, 2026 21:16:00
    At the time I renewed, flying was one thing a valid passport was
    supposed to allow without issues or extra cost. Also, IIRC, in this state the difference was > $10 when I renewed. Since I rarely fly, and planned to keep my passport valid, I didn't feel it necessary.

    That is still the case here. However, we never leave the country so have no need for passports. We both renewed our licenses the same year. It was assumed we both had real IDs, but apparantly she didn't check the right box. :/


    Makes sense. I had a passport because, while I don't hardly ever fly, I did want to take a road trip that included several days in Canada.


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  • From Robert Wolfe@VERT/KLYNTAR to DUMAS WALKER on Friday, July 10, 2026 13:39:00

    On Jul 10, 2026 09:16pm, DUMAS WALKER wrote to ACCESSION:

    At the time I renewed, flying was one thing a valid passport
    was
    supposed to allow without issues or extra cost. Also, IIRC,
    in this
    state the difference was > $10 when I renewed. Since I
    rarely fly,
    and
    planned to keep my passport valid, I didn't feel it
    necessary.

    That is still the case here. However, we never leave the country
    so have
    no need for passports. We both renewed our licenses the same
    year. It was assumed we both had real IDs, but apparantly she didn't
    check the right box. :/


    Makes sense. I had a passport because, while I don't hardly
    ever fly,
    I did want to take a road trip that included several days in
    Canada.

    I have passport, biut I also have a RealID license. I got my first
    passport when my late husband and I moved to Buffalo and we went
    across thye river to Niagara Falls, Ont. to spped a day at Clifton
    Hill; which, now that I am married again a once again living on
    Grand Island, I'd love to do that again.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Robert Wolfe on Saturday, July 11, 2026 21:07:00
    I have passport, biut I also have a RealID license. I got my first passport when my late husband and I moved to Buffalo and we went
    across thye river to Niagara Falls, Ont. to spped a day at Clifton
    Hill; which, now that I am married again a once again living on
    Grand Island, I'd love to do that again.


    I have not been to Niagara yet. That was planned for a future trip that got delayed by the pandemic travel restrictions. I need to plan a trip up that way (and get my passport renewed!).


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to phigan on Sunday, July 12, 2026 09:21:06
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: phigan to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jul 09 2026 11:02 am

    There's already a passport, and it works for more things. Screw that real ID shit. The passport is a little bit bigger, but big deal.. makes you feel lik you're back in Communist Russia or something.

    I wish I'd gotten a passport card when I got my passport renewed. It would have come in handy. I have a real ID, still travel with a passport out of spite.

    I'm saddened that most places I've traveled (Canada, the UK, France, Italy) don't stamp passports anymore. That was a cool memento of a trip and you could look at your passport to confirm trip dates.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sunday, July 12, 2026 09:25:25
    Nightfox wrote to chris dick <=-

    I've heard that if you have a passport, you don't need a Real ID, and
    you can use your passport instead.

    True.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Sunday, July 12, 2026 09:25:25
    Dumas Walker wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Agree, so long as they are mostly uniform but also still handled on the state level.

    Totally agree, thinking more about format - expiration dates and data
    stored on the magstrip. Because, when you buy alcohol or antihistamines
    at Target, they should be able to pull the information off of your
    license just fine whether you're in California or Arkansas.

    Aside: I bought a bottle of wine at Target last week. They didn't
    bother checking my ID. Don't know if this was a policy change or if
    they felt silly asking a 60 year old with lustrous silvery-gray hair
    for his ID.



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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, July 12, 2026 15:42:50
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Sun Jul 12 2026 09:25 am

    this was a policy change or if
    they felt silly asking a 60 year ol

    Most stores' policy is to card if the
    person looks under 30.
    Here, anyway.

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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to PHIGAN on Sunday, July 12, 2026 19:35:00
    Most stores' policy is to card if the
    person looks under 30.
    Here, anyway.
    I remember when i was 25 i was still carded for rated r movies.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Matthew Munson on Monday, July 13, 2026 11:13:34
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Matthew Munson to PHIGAN on Sun Jul 12 2026 07:35 pm

    Most stores' policy is to card if the
    person looks under 30.
    Here, anyway.
    I remember when i was 25 i was still carded for rated r movies.

    I got carded more than once when I was in my 50's.

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  • From Prowler@VERT/PROWLER to Bf2k+ on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 12:43:13
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Bf2k+ to Matthew Munson on Mon Jul 13 2026 11:13 am

    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Matthew Munson to PHIGAN on Sun Jul 12 2026 07:35 pm

    Most stores' policy is to card if the
    person looks under 30.
    Here, anyway.
    I remember when i was 25 i was still carded for rated r movies.

    I got carded more than once when I was in my 50's.

    Around the time of the Gulf War I was 19 and looked extremely young. I met my folks in Las Vegas between tours and went to casino's in my Navy Dress Blues. Free drinks, lots of pictures, and all the gambling I could handle. Later on I changed back into my civilian clothing and was instantly asked for ID...

    Prowler

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Prowler on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 16:33:26
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Prowler to Bf2k+ on Wed Jul 15 2026 12:43 pm

    Around the time of the Gulf War I was 19 and looked extremely young. I met my folks in Las Vegas between tours and went to casino's in my Navy Dress Blues. Free drinks, lots of pictures, and all the gambling I could handle. Later on I changed back into my civilian clothing and was instantly asked for > ID...


    You got treated that way because navy boys work hard and play hard.
    They spend a lot of money.

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Prowler on Thursday, July 16, 2026 04:07:48
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Prowler to Bf2k+ on Wed Jul 15 2026 12:43 pm

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Matthew Munson on Thursday, July 16, 2026 13:07:26
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Matthew Munson to PHIGAN on Sun Jul 12 2026 19:35:00

    I remember when i was 25 i was still carded for rated r movies.

    Same here. I always looks about 10 years younger that I actually was. Funny how when I was younger I hated it when people thought I was in my teens when I was in my 20s. Now I love it when they think I'm in my 50s, or even in my 40s, though I'm in my 60s.

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  • From Prowler@VERT/PROWLER to phigan on Thursday, July 16, 2026 14:37:00
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: phigan to Prowler on Thu Jul 16 2026 04:07 am

    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Prowler to Bf2k+ on Wed Jul 15 2026 12:43 pm

    The PipeLine BBS - Coming to you from beautiful Loveland, Colorado!

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mortar on Friday, July 17, 2026 02:10:37
    Re: Re: Bbsing
    By: Mortar to Matthew Munson on Thu Jul 16 2026 01:07 pm

    Same here. I always looks about 10 years younger that I actually was. Funny how when I was younger I hated it when people thought I was in my teens when I was in my 20s. Now I love it when they think I'm in my 50s, or even in my 40s, though I'm in my 60s.

    :)
    I grew a goatee when I was 21, and there was someone who said he thought I looked like I was in my 30s.. I thought that was a little odd, so I shaved my goatee. I'm in my mid-40s now, I have a goatee again (which I've had since I was 30), and people have been saying I look younger than I am for a while now.

    Some white hair started appearing in my goatee about 5 years ago though, so perhaps peoples' perception of my age will change again.. though I don't have much white hair on top of my head yet, and I haven't really started going bald yet..

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