• [ANSI] Re: Kamala

    From halian@VERT/ABINARY to Gamgee on Thursday, August 08, 2024 14:09:00
    Oops, hit S when I meant to hit F. >_<;;;

    Yet I've watched some of her interviews, not all of them, and seen nothing likewhat you say.

    You're either lying, or dumber than she is.

    Even more clueless than most of the flaming libtards that pass through here. Olympic gold level of cluelessness.

    OK so since you gave no intellegent argument, why are you posting in debate forum?

    Because I want to. Because I call out bullshitters, liars, and trolls when I see them. I'm thinking you may be all three of those.

    Neofree is none of those; instead all three of those terms more aptly describe YOU. Especially since you insist on calling everyone who dares to break ranks from Your Holiness' dogmatic coprolalia the R-word or some churlish, childish variant thereof.

    Kindly locate the direction of "off" and devote the rest of your life to fucking in it.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to halian on Thursday, August 08, 2024 15:11:00
    halian wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Because I want to. Because I call out bullshitters, liars, and trolls when I see them. I'm thinking you may be all three of those.

    Neofree is none of those; instead all three of those terms more aptly describe YOU. Especially since you insist on calling everyone who dares
    to break ranks from Your Holiness' dogmatic coprolalia the R-word or
    some churlish, childish variant thereof.

    You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, you couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions printed on the heel. You are a canker, an open wound. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You took your last vacation in the Islets of Langerhans.

    You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, and a weasel. I take that back; you are a festering pustule on a weasel's rump. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

    I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. You are a technicolor yawn. And did I mention that you smell?

    You are a squeaking rat, a mistake of nature and a heavy-metal bagpipe player. You were not born. You were hatched into an unwilling world that rejects the likes of you. You didn't crawl out of a normal egg, either, but rather a mutant maggot egg rejected by an evil scientist as being below his low standards. Your alleged parents abandoned you at birth and then died of shame in recognition of what they had done to an unsuspecting world. They were a bit late.

    Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it ever so much more rapidly. If cluelessness were crude oil, your scalp would be crawling with caribou.

    You are a thick-headed trog. I have seen skeet with more sense than you have. You are a few bricks short of a full load, a few cards short of a full deck, a few bytes short of a full core dump, and a few chromosomes short of a full human. Worse than that, you top-post. God created houseflies, cockroaches, maggots, mosquitos, fleas, ticks, slugs, leeches, and intestinal parasites, then he lowered his standards and made you. I take it back; God didn't make you. You are Satan's spawn. You are Evil beyond comprehension, half-living in the slough of despair. You are the entropy which will claim us all. You are a green-nostriled, crossed eyed, hairy-livered, goisher kopf, inbred trout-defiler. You make Ebola look good.

    You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. You are not ANSI compliant and your markup doesn't validate. You have a couple of address lines shorted together. You should be promoted to Engineering Manager.

    Do you really expect your delusional and incoherent ramblings to be read? Everyone plonked you long ago. Do you fantasize that your tantrums and conniption fits could possibly be worth the $0.000000001 worth of electricity used to send them? Your life is one big W.O.M.B.A.T., and your future doesn't look promising either. We need to trace your bloodline and terminate all siblings and cousins in order to cleanse humanity of your polluted genes. The good news is that no normal human would ever mate with you, so we won't have to go into the sewers in search of your git.

    You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a loathsome disease, a drooling inbred cross-eyed toesucker. You make Quakers shout and strike Pentecostals silent. You have a version 1.0 mind in a version 6.13 world. Your mother had to tie a pork chop around your neck just to get your dog to play with you. You think that www.GuyMacon.com/flame.html is the name of a rock band. You believe that P.D.Q. Bach is the greatest composer who ever lived. You prefer L. Ron Hubbard to Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Hee-Haw is too deep for you. You would watch test patterns all day if the other inmates would let you.

    On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. Spammers look down on you. Phone sex operators hang up on you. Telemarketers refuse to be seen in public with you. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. May you choke on your own foolish opinions. You are a Pusillanimous galactophage and you wear your sister's training bra. Don't bother opening the door when you leave - you should be able to slime your way out underneath. I hope that when you get home your mother runs out from under the porch and bites you.

    You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking half-twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You bloody churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill. You jetere steatopygous pilgarlick hircine whigmaleerious rhadamanthine lintlicker. I refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram.

    You are so clueless that if you dressed in a clue skin, doused yourself in clue musk, and did the clue dance in the middle of a field of horny clues at the height of clue mating season, you still would not have a clue. If you were a movie you would be a double feature; _Battlefield_Earth_ and _Moron_Movies_II_. You would be out of focus.

    You are a fiend and a sniveling coward, and you have bad breath. You are the unholy spawn of a bandy-legged hobo and a syphilitic camel. You wear strangely mismatched clothing with oddly placed stains. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just knowing that you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away. You are jetsam who dreams of becoming flotsam. You won't make it. I beg for sweet death to come and remove me from a world which became unbearable when the bioterrorists designed you.

    It is hard to believe how incredibly stupid you are. Stupid as a stone that the other stones make fun of. So stupid that you have traveled far beyond stupid as we know it and into a new dimension of stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid cubed. Trans-stupid stupid. Stupid collapsed to a singularity where even the stupons have collapsed into stuponium. Stupid so dense that no intelligence can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot summer day on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one minute than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. It cannot be possible that anything in our universe can really be this stupid. This is a primordial fragment from the original big stupid bang. A pure extract of stupid with absolute stupid purity. Stupid beyond the laws of nature. I must apologize. I can't go on. This is my epiphany of stupid. After this experience, you may not hear from me for a while. I don't think that I can summon the strength left to mock your moronic opinions and malformed comments about boring trivia or your other drivel. Duh.

    The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of your of what you wrote, because, well ... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things to be difficult. If I had known that this was true in your case then I would have never have exposed myself to what you wrote. It just wouldn't have been "right." Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

    P.S.: You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, EDLINoid, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dyspeptic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, pinguid, and Generally Not Good.



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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to paulie420 on Friday, August 09, 2024 16:44:00
    Project 2025 is Trump's Policy.

    Thats completely untrue - he told us as much a day after this misinformati hit mainstream... I would assume that you don't believe his statements - b I'd assume it lands somewhere more in the middle; I don't think Trump supp the ENTIRE 2025 policy - but could agree with you that some of his stances would align with it. I don't, however, think he is as radical as the entir 700+ page text.

    I'm going to press X to doubt. Project 2025 and Agenda 47 very closely parallel each other on all fronts.

    One of the most terrifying things he wants to do is change a large ch of low level federal civil service workers from standard hires to political appointees, so they can install loyal cult members into the positions.

    Why is that terrifying; when every other politician from Biden to Obama to and beyond does the EXACT same thing?? I could understand if you don't agr with these appointees - but this is the nature of the beast...

    "Political appointee" has a specific meaning under federal administrative
    law. It means:

    - that they are appointed by the President, Vice President, or
    agency head, instead of hired through the usual process for federal civil servants;
    - that they are required to take an ethics pledge not to accept gifts
    from lobbyists, in accordance with Executive Order 13490; that, if they were appointed by the President, they may not receive *any* income from outside employment or activities, per EO 12674 sec. 102; and
    - that they are not part of the competitive service, exceptive service, or Senior Executive Service (the three classes of federal civil servant), though they may transfer to one of them ("burrow in") with the advance approval of the Office of Personnel Management, and such conversions are periodically audited by the Government Accountability Office.

    Trump tried to do this with Exectuive order Schedule F https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-o ing-schedule-f-excepted-service/

    Biden recinded it 3 days after he took office, so it didn't go into effect.

    [snip]

    I agree with this sentiment.... why wouldn't we?

    Changing low-level civil service positions to political appointments /en
    masse/ would unwind 141 years of civil service laws and regulations that serve to prevent a scenario exactly like this, namely the re�mplementation of a spoils system. It may well just plain old violate them (IANAL, of course.) Additionally, Schedule F civil servants would have effectively been under at-will employment, which would deprive them of the protections against adverse personnel actions enshrined in those laws and regulations.

    And no matter how much Trump tries to distance himself from Project 2025, is absolutely is his policy. nearly everyone he surrounds himse with is involved with it in some way.

    Hard disagree - he told us as much...

    Breaking news: he lied. The only reason Chris LaCivita called Project 2025 a pain in the ass was that it attracted exactly the sort and level of attention to the GOP manifesto (read: Project 2025 with the serial numbers filed off) that they *don't* want.

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  • From halian@VERT/ABINARY to paulie420 on Friday, August 09, 2024 17:36:00
    Yes, turning the choice over to the states has certainly lead to all (and sometimes downright illogical) bans, and a lot of Republican politicians are responsible/behind it, and I disagree with them on it

    I do too - however, a decade ago it was exactly what BOTH sides wanted. On abortion, I'm pro-choice - PERIOD... but how bad IS the states taking over think it puts the vote in PEOPLES hands - I don't agree with it, but I ref to lie and make it the topic that the left wants to...

    The quote answers your question: the problem with kicking the abortion issue to the states *is* the all-out bans that quite a few states have enacted.

    Nevermind that Trump would severely restrict abortions in several ways, as outlined throughout Project 2025.

    The government has no right telling a person what medical procedures they can and can't have.

    Rent is $2000; food is up 40%; gas is freaking insane; insurances are up 2 I have less $$$; I've never worried this much in my life; a soda costs $4 Seattle; people who go viral make $100M in a year; press record, in 2024 i almost the only way...

    Trump 2024; more and more everyday.

    Trump will accelerate greedflation through further "trickle-down" tax cuts and otherwise, not restrain or end it. The solution is to tax, or failing that eat, the rich.

    -̹�lian

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HALIAN on Saturday, August 10, 2024 11:11:00
    The quote answers your question: the problem with kicking the abortion issue t
    the states *is* the all-out bans that quite a few states have enacted.

    Agreed.

    Nevermind that Trump would severely restrict abortions in several ways, as outlined throughout Project 2025.

    Before he was shot, Trump successfully persuaded the GOP to remove any
    national abortion language from the party platform. The author's of
    Project 2025 might have some interest in restricting abortions on a
    national level, but I do not believe that Trump does.

    The government has no right telling a person what medical procedures they can and can't have.

    As long as they are educated, consenting adults.

    The solution is to tax, or failing that eat the rich.

    I disagree here, too. I cannot manage to hate people just because they are able to make/save more money that I do.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to halian on Sunday, August 11, 2024 15:43:06
    Re: [ANSI] Re: Kamala
    By: halian to paulie420 on Fri Aug 09 2024 05:36 pm

    The solution is to tax, or failing
    that eat, the rich.

    This notion comes from the naive idea that the government has a better use for the money than the money's rightful owners.

    There is also the problem that money is not the end-all-be-all of economy. If you have a system of money redistribution in place in order to ensure the poor have money and the rich don't have as much, but the productive fabric of the country is damaged, then buying a loaf of bread will be still worth 50 bucks and poor people will still be poor people.

    Specifically, when you adjust the economic machine to ensure the low and middle classes have money but you don't have a productive fabric in place, what you get is runaway inflation and people unable to secure affrdable food and housing. I am sure this rings a bell.



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  • From Dr. What@VERT/CFBBS to Arelor on Monday, August 12, 2024 07:14:00
    Arelor wrote to halian <=-

    Specifically, when you adjust the economic machine to ensure the low
    and middle classes have money but you don't have a productive fabric in place, what you get is runaway inflation and people unable to secure affrdable food and housing. I am sure this rings a bell.

    Of course it rings a bell. It's called "Socialism" and it's never worked in the history of the world.

    You cannot "ensure the low and middle classes have money" and have a productive fabric in place. They are mutually exclusive.

    But you Ignorant Elitists keep pushing your agenda, no matter how much it keeps failing.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Monday, August 12, 2024 10:59:00
    This notion comes from the naive idea that the government has a better use for
    the money than the money's rightful owners.

    Which, as we've established that the government is not usually looking out
    for their population's interests, is an incorrect notion.

    There is also the problem that money is not the end-all-be-all of economy. If you have a system of money redistribution in place in order to ensure the poor
    have money and the rich don't have as much, but the productive fabric of the country is damaged, then buying a loaf of bread will be still worth 50 bucks and poor people will still be poor people.

    People who vote for left-leaning candidates do not understand this.

    Specifically, when you adjust the economic machine to ensure the low and middl
    classes have money but you don't have a productive fabric in place, what you get is runaway inflation and people unable to secure affrdable food and housing. I am sure this rings a bell.

    Runaway inflation is part of what lead to the rise of the Nazi's in
    Germany, and the rise of other totalitarian regimes (both fascist and communist) in other places.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/CFBBS to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, August 13, 2024 07:13:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-

    People who vote for left-leaning candidates do not understand this.

    They don't understand economics, human nature, ... really, they don't understand anything. They just go with what makes them feel good.

    Runaway inflation is part of what lead to the rise of the Nazi's in Germany, and the rise of other totalitarian regimes (both fascist and communist) in other places.

    Yup. It's worked before. Have the gov't create problems. Then they get lots of voters telling the gov't to fix the problems they created. When the gov't ask for more power to do that, the voters give it to them. Soon the gov't has all the power.


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