It seems like they just have trump on their mind all the time.
Do they REALLY want Joe Biden to win? I don't understand why they don't have a better democrat candidate. Why are they putting this poor man through all this. Dude looks like he has 2 years left of life max.

This time something is different; they still want Biden to win, but they are doing noticeably less to make that happen. If Biden wins, then the globalists "win" all our money. But if Trump wins, then they get to play God again with some virus that's 20x more deadly than covid.

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Do they REALLY want Joe Biden to win?

They want a puppet that they can control to win. The only one with less brain cells than Biden is Kamala. But no one, not even the Democrats, want Kamala.

Biden makes more sense when he speaks than Kamala does, and he's proven his loyalty to the world's elite. They know that they can count on him. Biden is the most reliable "team player" that they've ever had. It would be foolish for them to dispose of this guy who squandered unprecedented amounts of money for them.

Obama didn't squirm away with trillions of dollars, not even after 2 terms. This Biden guy is the real deal when it comes to making money disappear.

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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: Shitty to MRO on Thu May 02 2024 10:20 pm

It seems like they just have trump on their mind all the time.
Do they REALLY want Joe Biden to win? I don't understand why they don't have a better democrat candidate. Why are they putting this poor man through all this. Dude looks like he has 2 years left of life max.

This time something is different; they still want Biden to win, but they are doing noticeably less to make that happen. If Biden wins, then the globalists "win" all our money. But if Trump wins, then they get to play God again with some virus that's 20x more deadly than covid.

you need to update your msg pointers if you decide to go on a 9 month vacation from msg bases.

you're replying to older stuff
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They want a puppet that they can control to win. The only one with less brain cells than Biden is Kamala. But no one, not even the Democrats, want Kamala.

Biden makes more sense when he speaks than Kamala does, and he's proven his loyalty to the world's elite.

Since Dr. What posted that, I have actually run into at least one die-hard Democrat that thinks Kamala is great.

Should something happen to Biden, Kamala is woefully unprepared to be President. I don't care what people think of Biden or Trump, she is
horrible in comparison to either one. IMHO, she is the #1 thing wrong
about Biden, rated even before "he might be senile" and "he might be a
crook/in bed with China/a Democrat/etc." If something happens to him, we
are in deep, deep trouble.


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Dumas Walker wrote to SHITTY <=-

They want a puppet that they can control to win. The only one with

less

brain cells than Biden is Kamala. But no one, not even the Democrats, want Kamala.

Biden makes more sense when he speaks than Kamala does, and he's proven his loyalty to the world's elite.

Since Dr. What posted that, I have actually run into at least one
die-hard Democrat that thinks Kamala is great.

Should something happen to Biden, Kamala is woefully unprepared
to be President. I don't care what people think of Biden or
Trump, she is horrible in comparison to either one. IMHO, she is
the #1 thing wrong about Biden, rated even before "he might be
senile" and "he might be a crook/in bed with China/a
Democrat/etc." If something happens to him, we are in deep, deep
trouble.

The good news on that is that he (and she) are only going to be there
for a little less than 9 months now... ;-)



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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: Dumas Walker to SHITTY on Fri May 03 2024 08:44 am

Since Dr. What posted that, I have actually run into at least one die-hard Democrat that thinks Kamala is great.

Should something happen to Biden, Kamala is woefully unprepared to be President. I don't care what people think of Biden or Trump, she is horrible in comparison to either one. IMHO, she is the #1 thing wrong
about Biden, rated even before "he might be senile" and "he might be a crook/in bed with China/a Democrat/etc." If something happens to him, we are in deep, deep trouble.

the only people i know who liked kamala are people who thougth she was black and that she would represent the black people well. if they'd look at her record they'd know there was no chance in hell of that.

Now, most liberal people are like poindexter and say nothing about their own party but will take shots at trump/conservatives/regligion. they are too ashamed of their own party to speak about it. they'll all vote for biden again, too.
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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Fri May 03 2024 02:28 pm

Should something happen to Biden, Kamala is woefully unprepared to be

The good news on that is that he (and she) are only going to be there for a little less than 9 months now... ;-)

Do you have a 6th sense that allows you to predict the outcome of the 2024 presidential election?

Nightfox

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Should something happen to Biden, Kamala is woefully unprepared to be President. I don't care what people think of Biden or Trump, she is horrible in comparison to either one. IMHO, she is the #1 thing wrong about Biden, rated even before "he might be senile" and "he might be a crook/in bed with China/a Democrat/etc." If something happens to him, we are in deep, deep trouble.

I agree with what you're same to some extent, but we are already in deep, deep trouble.

Russia is not going to forgive us for giving Ukraine weapons used to kill Russians. There's just not going to any love for that.

And if China invades Taiwan, smart Biden will just declare war on China. (Even deeper, we'll get.)

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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Fri May 03 2024 02:28 pm

Should something happen to Biden, Kamala is woefully unprepared to be

The good news on that is that he (and she) are only going to be there for a little less than 9 months now... ;-)

Do you have a 6th sense that allows you to predict the outcome of
the 2024 presidential election?

Yes, I do. (Doesn't everybody?)

We all know, of course, that "predictions" are not always correct. ;-)



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the only people i know who liked kamala are people who thougth she was black and that she would represent the black people well. if they'd look at her record they'd know there was no chance in hell of that.

Now, most liberal people are like poindexter and say nothing about their own party but will take shots at trump/conservatives/regligion. they are too ashamed of their own party to speak about it. they'll all vote for biden again
too.

The ones I am thinking of fall into your second category but, with this
being an election year and Trump being the opponent, have gone all in and
are now speaking up about how "great" Biden *and* Harris are. Granted,
they are usually doing it while taking a pot shot at Trump/conservatives/ religion, but they will defend either of them if they get any push-back.

You are right, though, there are still many in that second category who are still smart enough to remain quiet about it.


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Dumas Walker wrote to SHITTY <=-

Should something happen to Biden, Kamala is woefully unprepared to be President.

I will make the point here that Biden isn't prepared to be President either. Both Sleepy Joe and Kamala only do what they are told.


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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

Do you have a 6th sense that allows you to predict the outcome of the
2024 presidential election?

You only need to look at the polls.


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Shitty wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

I agree with what you're same to some extent, but we are already in
deep, deep trouble.

Russia is not going to forgive us for giving Ukraine weapons used to
kill Russians. There's just not going to any love for that.

All we can home for is regime change and a moderate republic to replace
it, but the powers that be are too dug in. Here and in Russia.




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Should something happen to Biden, Kamala is woefully unprepared to be President.

I will make the point here that Biden isn't prepared to be President either. Both Sleepy Joe and Kamala only do what they are told.

Regardless, Kamala makes Joe look like Einstein.


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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Shitty on Sat May 04 2024 09:38 am

Russia is not going to forgive us for giving Ukraine weapons used to kill Russians. There's just not going to any love for that.

All we can home for is regime change and a moderate republic to replace
it, but the powers that be are too dug in. Here and in Russia.

I think people is not aware that Russians feel that, when the Soviet Union fell, the NATO kept kicking them in the ribs while they were down and the URSS had already declared defeat.

Ukraine is not THE problem as far as the Russian point of view is concerned. It is the straw that broke the camel's back after decades of NATO undermining Russian interests, sometimes in very hostile and dirty ways.

To put it bluntly: how would US officials feel if California and Texas separated from the Union but kept friendly relations with Washington, then Iran dragged them both away from the US sphere of influence, and finally placed military bases in them? No change in the US regime would change the fact Iran would be regarded as an enemy, alongside the politicians ruling formely friendly countries that are now hostile.


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Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Ukraine is not THE problem as far as the Russian point of view is concerned. It is the straw that broke the camel's back after decades of NATO undermining Russian interests, sometimes in very hostile and dirty ways.

After a cold war where we had thousands of fucking strategic nukes
pointed at each other, you expect either side to just switch gears and
be trading partners? Change takes a generation or two.

What made the current Russian view make a whole lot of sense is looking
at Putin's Russia from the eyes of someone who's living in the cold war
and expecting an invasion from the west.



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Arelor <=-

Ukraine is not THE problem as far as the Russian point of view is concerned. It is the straw that broke the camel's back after decades of NATO undermining Russian interests, sometimes in very hostile and dirty ways.

After a cold war where we had thousands of fucking strategic
nukes pointed at each other, you expect either side to just
switch gears and be trading partners? Change takes a generation
or two.

The "Cold War" has been over for decades. At least a generation.



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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Wed May 08 2024 07:32 am

After a cold war where we had thousands of fucking strategic nukes
pointed at each other, you expect either side to just switch gears and
be trading partners?

in this case, they became trading partners with all the big guys, including the usa.
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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Wed May 08 2024 07:32 am

What made the current Russian view make a whole lot of sense is looking
at Putin's Russia from the eyes of someone who's living in the cold war
and expecting an invasion from the west.

Nearly so.

Actually, we have given Putin and his friends arguments enough to expect foul play from the West for the past decades. An invasion? No, but a commitment to undermine Russian interests instead of reaching suitable agreements is quite of an open thing. There used to be document online with a good summary about the matter - still a veeeery long read. I wil post it if I find it.

The US was very quick to befriend the Spanish Fascist regime as soon as it fit their interests. I don't buy the argument that NATO and Russia aren't capable of switching gears if there is a will.


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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Wed May 08 2024 07:32 am

What made the current Russian view make a whole lot of sense is looking
at Putin's Russia from the eyes of someone who's living in the cold war
and expecting an invasion from the west.

Meanwhile, have a look at this: The History Behind the Russia-Ukraine War, Scott Horton, 2022.

https://original.antiwar.com/scott/2022/03/02/the-history-behind-the-russia-ukraine-war/

"Again, not that it justifies what Putin has done here or the worsening problems that are almost certain to come from it. But many of his worst accusations about the actions of the U.S.-led West in Ukraine were true, including the breaking of Bush Sr.'s no NATO expansion promises, CIA support for the bin Ladenite terrorists in Chechnya, Libya and Syria and war against Serbia to break off Kosovo, the disaster of Iraq War II and Bush's withdrawal from the ABM treaty, (again!) dual-use launchers at ABM sites in Eastern Europe, the 2014 coup and the subsequent and ongoing war in the east, including U.S. training for fighters, all the American and allied arms and advisers in the country since 2014 and cooperation with the U.S. Navy that he says puts the Russian Black Sea Fleet at risk. He also credibly claimed that the Ukrainian military had already been integrated with NATO and has given access to U.S. surveillance drones and planes."


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Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

switch gears and be trading partners? Change takes a generation
or two.

The "Cold War" has been over for decades. At least a generation.

The next generation will see things differently, I hope.


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including the breaking of Bush Sr.'s no NATO expansion promises, CIA support for the bin Ladenite terrorists in Chechnya, Libya and Syria and war against

Never underestimate what the CIA can get up to, or how it can (and likely
will) later backfire straight into our faces.


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After a cold war where we had thousands of fucking strategic
nukes pointed at each other, you expect either side to just
switch gears and be trading partners? Change takes a generation
or two.

The "Cold War" has been over for decades. At least a generation.

Unless you count the new cold war that Biden positioned us in.

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Shitty wrote to Gamgee <=-

The "Cold War" has been over for decades. At least a generation.

Unless you count the new cold war that Biden positioned us in.

It never ended. Not to the military-industrial complex. War is too good
for business!




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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Shitty on Tue May 14 2024 07:45 am

Shitty wrote to Gamgee <=-

The "Cold War" has been over for decades. At least a generation.

Unless you count the new cold war that Biden positioned us in.

It never ended. Not to the military-industrial complex. War is too good
for business!

trump was pretty good at staying out of wars. there were a few controlled manuvers but that's it.

since biden usa is back in warmonger mode.

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The "Cold War" has been over for decades. At least a generation.

Unless you count the new cold war that Biden positioned us in.

It never ended. Not to the military-industrial complex. War is too good
for business! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.


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Re: Re: what are democrats th
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 15 2024 09:54 am

The "Cold War" has been over for decades. At least a generation.

Unless you count the new cold war that Biden positioned us in.

It never ended. Not to the military-industrial complex. War is too good
for business! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.

war sure isn't helping out OUR economy right now.
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It never ended. Not to the military-industrial complex. War is too good
for business! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.

war sure isn't helping out OUR economy right now.

I would say that is true so long as you are not profiteering from it. I
sure don't feel like it is doing my wallet any good.


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